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What's great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he's absolving Musk, or that he's criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

'No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!'

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[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If Elon isn't a full-blown Nazi, he's at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, his alliances life with power, money, and people thinking he's cool (narcissism). The racism and cruelty are just his personal side projects.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It's the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It can't realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can't travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.

[–] not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Wasn't the king tiger notorious for breaking down constantly? Or was that a different German WW2 tank?

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[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago

I, as of recently, live in a place where I actually see those things driving around (and a lot of other trucks). They look like children's toys compared to the absolute monster fords and some other trucks (not to mention they really do age like milk from what I've seen). Some of these behemoths can't even fit in a single parking spot, it's kind of insane. One of those would be more deserving of this title I think (I don't know cars so I can't say any specific models I'm afraid)

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[–] droplet6585@lemmy.ml 169 points 4 days ago (28 children)

Hur hur. I'd wish people would stop assigning hyper-competence to Nazis. They never were. Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 138 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Exactly this. My grandmother lived under the Nazis and she said they were fucking idiots. Exactly the same type of incompetent blowhards. The whole hyper scientific ubermensch BS in the cultural zeitgeist is so frustrating. I blame all the WWII video games and movies that played up the myth to have more interesting villains than the sleazy shit stains that they actually were.

[–] moody@lemmings.world 71 points 4 days ago

It's hard to convince people that they've been had by a bunch of morons.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (5 children)

The strength of the Germans was that I.) they had a really good industrial base, and ii.) the traditions within the army meant they had extremely well trained soldiers. Both of these predate nazi-rule. For instance, Germans also arguably had the best (equipped) army in WW1.

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Hitler was a drug addict and the trains didn't run on time.

German trains still don't run on time. Can't blame that one on the Nazis, that's just a German thing.

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[–] comfy@lemmy.ml 120 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Headlines are being headlines, I get it, but Fry was repeating a joke:

“I heard a very good joke yesterday,” the QI host, 67, told Stig Abell on Times Radio on Thursday.

“Someone said, ‘Musk is not a Nazi... Nazis made really good cars,’” he went on, before bursting out laughing.

[–] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Right, and here's the clip.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I'd imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.

[–] enbipanic@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago

All Nazis are assholes Not all assholes are Nazis

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Before? What, in primary school?

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[–] Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of "cultural purity" beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:

  1. He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid...

  2. He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I wonder where she is now....

Awww. She's all grown up, and seemingly successful.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago (24 children)

Let's repeat it again kids. Elon Musk is a piece of shit

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[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 90 points 4 days ago
[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fry used to be on Mastodon, not sure if he's still there ?

[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

Just looked…the accounts still there. No apparent activity in a year.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 60 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Still a Nazi.

Just America shrinkflated Nazism so the intelligence had to go. Still 100% of the hate and malice America loves to eat though.

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yes. He's still a Nazi. You're not getting the point.

Fry is trying to provoke Musk into saying, "yes, they're good enough," turning it an admission that he is indeed a Nazi.

[–] millie@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

Why is this thread full of Nazi propaganda? Yikes. 😬

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

based we did it fascism is defeated

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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago

TBF, Elon's cars are great at killing groups of people with toxic gasses and then incineration their bodies. Just because he isn't efficient today, doesn't mean he isn't working on being a better Nazi tomorrow.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-four-dead-lake-shore-cherry-1.7361751

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Elon is the new Henry Ford. But I'm afraid we have no modern day Roosevelts to smack him down.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Henry Ford actually had some good ideas himself. Elon steals all his ideas.

[–] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

The company being named Tesla seems pretty Edison.

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