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[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 168 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I should add “as a therapist in the US.” I have a lot of gay and trans clients, and it’s… bleak.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I know I should go to therapy but then I feel bad burdening a therapist with things like, "I'm so angry that the only thing that helps me sleep is imagining the entire current administration getting hit by a very localized meteor," because like, this shit is too big and we all have our coping mechanisms, right? At least mine isn't substance abuse or self harm.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oh, I encourage my clients to imagine stuff like that if it helps. Totally valid way to cope.

[–] H1jAcK@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you telling me that, after a breakup, when I imagined my ex and the guy she went back to having horrible things happen to them as a way to fall asleep... I wasn't being a sociopath?

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

Told my therapist that I often imagine running my ex over with my car, and he said that as long as I'm not planning on doing that irl that it's perfectly normal and understandable.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh well then I'm doing great! In a manner of speaking.

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[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've always wanted to traumatize a therapist by explaining how we live on a planet that is being systematically dismantled piece by piece.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Therapists aren't made of psychic porcelain, they actually go to therapy to process the stuff they deal with.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

But it fills my heart with joy to imagine it. Never gonna actually try to, I know they could handle it.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And their therapists go to other therapists?

Babe wake up, new psyramid scheme just dropped.

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[–] dumples@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago

I’ve always wanted to traumatize a therapist by explaining how we live on a planet that is being systematically dismantled piece by piece.

Most therapists have a good understanding about systemic problems. If they are social workers that is basically all of what social work school is about. So you can't say anything they haven't heard.

[–] Xanthrax@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

My sister is trans and getting all of her forms of ID because she's 18 (and needs a job), and we lost it in a move across the country. I have to be there along with two other people to prove she's a person. She just wants to exist like anyone else, and people are shitting on her because she's a girl. I want to strangle the world.

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Oh, this most certainly adds a lot of context, I'm sorry...

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, it feels really awful right now. And I want to stick my head in the sand with the news but I know I can't, or things will just get worse.

OMG yes, I soooo wish I could, but my brain needs input! Not knowing does not compute. I originally had the plan to block all the news/political communities as soon as I knew the election outcome, but not knowing what is coming feels worse than the emotional weight of knowing good people are being hurt as a distraction by some shit heads so that they can rob us for all we have (as a country).

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If you've been burnt to a crisp, even that tiny splash of water can feel like finding an oasis in the desert.

Thank you for your service.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

That’s great to know! And thank you.

[–] LengAwaits@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mental health care and psychiatrics are traditionally rationed for the professional managerial class anyway.

"Take your SSRIs and exorcise your guilt at doing this soul-sucking job to a professional anxiety reliever" is for rich people.

"Take your weed gummies/cheap booze and watch enjoy some AI-generated wish fulfillment slop" is for poor people.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Been in therapy quite a bit for most of the last 8 years. I just canceled my future appointments because I'm actually doing OK at the moment, but I've seen the toll the last few months have taken on my therapist (since the election) despite her best efforts to hide it. I feel terrible for these wonderful people that help shoulder the burdens of others. They are the shock troops bearing the brunt of defense in the current culture war.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My wife is a mental health therapist. It is a very high turnover job due to the emotional toll it takes on them. For the good therapists it's not something they can do indefinitely. It's also not as high paying as many seem to think. The majority of the money goes to insurance and then insurance a lot of times strings them along and it can take months sometimes to actually get money from insurance.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thank her for me. I don't know how they do it. I talked to my therapist about my fear of causing her emotional distress working with me through my issues, and she assured me that where she is, they have plenty of resources to get their own help when they need it. But that doesn't mean it isn't hard as hell on them.

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[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Completely vulnerable moment

As a person long overdue to get some mental help. I've been really motivated to get myself better since early last year. Had some events happen where I was like, yeah I need to handle my shit.

I'll say the process so far is my biggest hurdle. Took ages to get a referral, once I got the referral took ages to get seen. When I finally was seen it was the wrong fit. Now I'm waiting until next week to start again and push for different referrals, all so my insurance covers some of it (maybe).

Meanwhile I'm doing the best I can, but certainly think about just throwing in the towel and drowning myself in drugs again. Which worked a long time until it really really didn't work. But the thought of finally getting my foot in the door to spend months and thousands trying to even find a root cause just feels utterly pointless. Also now raw dogging life without anything to dull it but some doctor prescribed sleeping pills is challenging to say the least.

Still the worst part is explaining the laundry list of my past trauma to strangers just to get them up to speed. Hopefully to help pinpoint where I need to focus my efforts on getting better. Last fellow just had to say "well you made it this far and seem to be doing better than most of my patients". Essentially call me back when you have a full blown meltdown, because I only deal with extremes. That shit was deflating, sorry for being proactive and trying to get help before I get committed somewhere?

I've spent a really long time keeping my issues in check, I've become very good at what to say or not say that is bouncing around my skull. Now that I can't do it anymore it seems to throw a lot of people for a loop.

Anyhow feels like some sort of shitty race to see if my mind breaks first or I get help before that happens. Than when I do get to the right step 1 there will be this slow trial and error I need to go through. Which I completely understand is necessary, but it's not giving me much hope.

That person on fire is probably like that because the healthcare system just kept dosing it with gasoline before they stepped foot in the office.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you are going through that. If you're unaware psychologytoday.com is a great resource. They let you search based on insurance, specialties, in person/virtual, any preferences one might have, and the professionals also might include info about them maybe even a video. I hope you get the help you have been fighting for soon.

[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks, I have gone there and it was helpful.

I made the mistake the first time by just taking my family doctor's opinion because I'm newer to the area and have no idea where to start. He sent me to the group who had asshole #1 and I found out afterwards that guy had a lot negative reviews for the same issues I had. The group was ok, but he was the worst and I got placed with him because everyone else was full. I was ignorant and was just desperate to get "somewhere". Boy was that a mistake.

Bigger problem I'm finding is there is a very small list for my area. Once I popped in the filter for non-secular it gets barren. I live in a very religious area, I'm not anti-religion. But I am an atheist that doesn't want to go to someone who tells me to confide in God to heal myself. Been to one of those before, just doesn't work.

Essentially I have narrowed it down to two.

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[–] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Idk if it will make you feel any better, but you're not alone. I have a few people in my life who struggle the same as you are, and it emotionally fucks with me. As someone who is somewhat put together myself, to see these people I care about genuinely try to get help and do the right thing to get better - all to be mistreated and counted as another number hurts so bad. I can see it in their tear soaked eyes, and I can hear it in their cries and desperate pleas for help that they feel so helpless and feel like nothing is working no matter how hard they try. I try to listen, to comfort, and to maybe give advice and motivation to keep trying, but it's all so hard.

The mental health care system in the u.s. is abysmal, it's gut-wrenchingly bad. It fails people every day. Every day people relapse because they feel like it's the only way to cope with whatever it is they're dealing with. I wish I could help more people, I wish I could help you all.

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[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

Just started with a therapist after a decade or two of mistrust in them, and yeah, getting them up to speed on all your past and trauma is time consuming, especially when you only get an hour a week to walk through your life story and try to get techniques that help you feel less like shit.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Looks like you need a psychologist to put out the fire then go to the therapist to tame any random flare ups.

I went for years of therapy and they would take the dropper and miss me completely. I don't know what the fuck I did but this angel dropped out of heaven claiming to be part of my benefits and started checking in on me every week to help orginize my healthcare needs. She got me in therapy, then got me to a psychologist. The psychologist was able to treat me within a few sessions and everything got easier.

I honestly could never get the therapist part to work, I don't really need someone to give me advise. I need someone to make me feel sane and stand me back up. I haven't found that yet.

As for the angel, she found a new job, passed me off, and the new guy wasn't as concerned with me.

I don't know, really it was the work of that random benefits person that saved me. It's so overwhelming to have suicidal idealation and constant anxiety/panic attacks and then have to deal with a broken healthcare system. What ever that fuckkng service was I cannot praise it enough.

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[–] confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In my experience therapy is something my therapist and I do together. My therapist isn't giving me water. The two of us together are finding water that was always there.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I've had the same experience, therapy is about teaching a man to fish not giving a man a fish

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Nobody wants to fish these days

God I fucking love capitalists

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[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It just hit me, I think it may be more appropriate to think about (actually helpful) therapy as placing those drops of water into a bucket, and there are times when that accumulated water doubles itself (breakthroughs, realisations, etc.) More like an investment of sorts.

At least, that's how it felt as I went through it. It never had a regular progression, it was always about leaps and bounds, then falling on my ass again for a couple of weeks, then snapping out of it when something I'd discussed 6 sessions ago finally clicked into place.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is definitely true in “regular” times. Meaning when my country is not on political fire. Lately most conversations with marginalized clients revolve around “what do I to stay safe?” and “how the hell can I leave the country?” It’s very sad.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have heard that schools in my area have begun the process of making "code red" plans if ICE or someone shows up to schools looking for students/parents. It is being done by small groups and no details shared outside of the people they are contacting to share the plan with. It's all scary as hell and I HATE that it's even a thing. =(

Edit also thank you for helping those adrift right now!

[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Heck, my favourite therapist (a very, very empathetic and honest person) retired from psychotherapy before hitting 30 during the Pandemic because they couldn't take the influx of destabilised people. I can't even imagine how much more horrible and immediate the situation in the States is right now...

Sincerely wish you and your clients as much peace and safety as humanly possible in these conditions!

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Thank you, I appreciate that!

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (20 children)

Maybe everyone being anxious and depressed is healthy in a dying world.

I tried doing therapy for a while, just to realize everything that stresses me out are totally valid stressors and the solution isn't to go to therapy but to change our economic system.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A therapist is not here to help you, they are here to help you help yourself. You cannot expect someone who you see once a week to fix your life, only you can do that.

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

lol there's definitely a few clients like that. how many of them are holding the kerosene?

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

hi, i have problems in the most complicated organ in all of existence that I have accumulated for my entire life, complicating it every day for the past 20 years. I'd like you to press the off switch for it please.

what do you mean there is no switch? WHAT A SCAM

[–] mke@programming.dev 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I don't think ill of therapists, but the fact so many issues come down to money doesn't endear me to the idea of therapy needing to take another chunk of it for dubious gains until you find the right therapist for you, and possibly even after that. Again, blame the system, not people, but hearing folks tell me I must pay people to fix me as the system grinds onward is tiring.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Therapy takes a while.

It isn't an instant win. But you will see their bottle that is specifically catered to you will become bigger.

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[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

...that will be $300 thank you.

[–] St0ner@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 week ago

Times are really tough and I appreciate the fuck out of each and everyone of you therapists.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

That's alchemical fire though and adding water only feeds it.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

"Also, that'll be $200"

[–] MerrySkeptic@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

As a fellow therapist, same

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