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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla)#Nipple_fixation

I learned about this today. I already knew a few stories about her, how she liked kittens und Robin Williams.

The nipple story makes her seem more relatable.

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[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem with what happened in 2005 is that the director pressured them into revealing themselves. Although I am confused as to how this was found out in the first place

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Koko could speak sign language, so she could ask.

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I have heard that was way over-exaggerated

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[–] Klear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No but seriously I am working on the Black Mesa video and general shitposting it's just taking a while and I wanted to put something out that I already had a lotta notes and footage for in the interim.

Great source you got there.

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Have you actually watched the video? Or only like the first minute of it?

You would not be saying this bullshit if you actually watched the video, its incredibly well researched. (Fucking hell, the dude says before your quote that he has been researching this for a couple of years)

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

She could definitely sign something like show nipples.

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

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[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

...or at least something that her handler can "interpret" that way

[–] AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"hey, Koko wants you to take off your top."

"really?"

"Yeah, she's fascinated by nipples. Hold on, lemme get my camera."

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

.... no? Well... we might need to go a different direction with your position here...

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Koko could not speak.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

She want taught an existing form of sign language, she was taught a never explained version of signing, which only the people who worked with her knew, and this was never documented in any scientific way for peer review, and the results weren't reproducable with other gorilla's or other researchers.

Best case scenarios, the humans involved anthropomorphized the gorilla, and thought they were communicating on a level much higher than they were actually communicating on, do to this.

Worst case, there were lying knowingly, and this was some sort of scam for money.

[–] takeda@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Although I am confused as to how this was found out in the first place

The affected people sued the organizion?

[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No that Koko liked nipples. That was established before 2005

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Most information points to it all being fraudulent, so, the 'interpretor' was either dealing with a lot of repressed sexually, or they were using the guise of a talking gorilla to sexually exploit workers. Which, that's gotta be the first time that's happened, right?

[–] dingleberry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that an issue? As long as it's only Koko seeing them?

That Wikipedia page seems to suggest that the director was using it as an excuse to peek at their nipples himself.

[–] helixdaunting@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Dicks out for Harambe

Tits out for Koko?

[–] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

koko says show nipples. she also says I have to be there and that you should let me bat them around a little

[–] MrFappy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Koko the talking monkey, says “Apple nipple hungry,” Koko the talking monkey, says “Apple nipple crap!” I wanna be Koko…

Whoever finishes the lyric has a spot in my own personal hall of fame 😂

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

GORILLAS ARE APES!!!

AAAAAAAPPPPEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For more edification, Ima plug the You're Wrong About podcast, which did a pretty great episode on Koko the Gorilla ( on Buzzsprout )