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[–] LambentMote 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Good on them. I hope others follow suit. As an aside, I recently switched to a lemmy app instead of using my ad blocked browser, and holy shit PCGamer's website is an unusable dystopian nightmare. You have to read the article through a tiny letterbox of multiple competing videos and across the short article there are three full page ads to dismiss. Fuck that.

Here's the full article text to save you a click.

If you want official updates from the Minecraft dev team, you better not look on Reddit. A post from a Reddit user bearing the name sliced_lime and a flair indicating they are the Minecraft Java Tech Lead (almost certainly Mojang's Mikael Hedberg) announced yesterday that Mojang would no longer be posting official content to Reddit, in the wake of that platform's response to protests over changes to its API.

"As you have no doubt heard by now, Reddit management introduced changes recently that have led to rule and moderation changes across many subreddits," read the post, before announcing that those changes have led Mojang to "no longer feel that Reddit is an appropriate place to post official content or refer [its] players to".

The events are only obliquely referred to in the post, but it seems the move has been sparked by Reddit's crackdown on protests against recent changes to its API that would, in essence, kill off third-party apps that let users access the site.

Subreddit mods have spent the last few weeks mounting various campaigns against Reddit's corporate leadership, either "going dark" by turning the subreddits they oversee into private, invite-only communities or else marking them as NSFW, meaning Reddit can't sell ads on those pages. Reddit responded by pressuring disgruntled mods, and in some cases ousting and trying to replace them.

In practice, the biggest impact of this departure will be the end of the subreddit's official changelog threads, where the subreddit's 7.4 million Minecraft fans and players can pore over official updates in granular detail and offer their feedback directly to the devs who hang out there. Sliced_lime emphasises that players are, naturally, "welcome to post unofficial update threads going forward," and can always "visit [Mojang's] feedback site at feedback.minecraft.net" or else contact it via social media.

User reaction has been pretty understanding, which probably only highlights just how angry everyone is with Reddit's leadership right now. The top-voted comment on sliced_lime's post, from DamageBooster, just says "Understandable" before asking where else users can access official changelogs.

Still, even if there are other avenues to reach Mojang, it seems fairly dramatic for a game as incomprehensibly massive and significant as Minecraft to cut off Reddit as one of its official ports of call. It's reminiscent of advertisers fleeing Twitter in the wake of Elon Musk's messy assumption of leadership at that company. Time will tell if Reddit's leadership will take any notice, though (I can't say I'm optimistic).

I've reached out to Microsoft to ask if any more of its studios are going to follow Mojang's suit and cut off Reddit as a source of official communication, and I'll update this piece if I hear back.

For now, I think this is a one-off. There's no sign of any other Microsoft studio doing anything similar so far, so this seems more like a situation that has personally aggravated sliced_lime (and presumably their fellow Mojang devs) than a Microsoft-wide initiative. But who knows? Perhaps one of the biggest companies in the world will take some time off fighting multiple national market regulators at once to direct its ire at Reddit executives. If that doesn't get their attention, nothing will.

[–] OctoFloofy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

thats why i use a system wide adblocker, no matter which app all ads are still gone

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have any recommendations for Android?

[–] spiritusmaximus@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Blokada

But I still have ublock on firefox

[–] OctoFloofy@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or Adguard (though that's not free). I've the best blocking experience overall with Adguard myself. Actually works in basically everything. Blokada didn't work in chrome properly, so if you use that that's an issue. Blokada is free and Adguard isn't but it has some additional stuff Blokada doesn't have from last time I used it.

[–] mrnotoriousman@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool how much a month for Adguard are we talking?

[–] BBKuma@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Adguard is $2.49 a month or $80 for lifetime. If you plan on using blokada, use blokada 5 which is the free one. With blokada 6 they've moved onto subscription model.

[–] Xhyro@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sounds interesting, mind sharing what you're using?

[–] OctoFloofy@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago
[–] natryamar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't you use Firefox as your default browser on Android and it loads without those ads?

[–] LambentMote 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have it set as default but Thunder seems to ignore that and use it's own browser apparently. I have a VPN ad block running as well most of the time but shut it down cos I had low battery. Seeing a relatively mainstream previously respected site acting like that shocked me after all this time. It feels like being on a dodgy porm site in the 90s.

[–] natryamar@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Ah yeah that how they get you for sure. I try to read stuff in my Google news feed through the chrome pop up browser and the ads are so annoying I almost always end up reopening them in Firefox.

[–] MarvinKMooney@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Sites like that are a cancer on the web.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Crazy. Mojang should just host their own Lemmy instance 😅

[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago

I feel that every publisher/developer could self-host, basically having a subreddit that is more within their control than before.

Game forums still have good information, this could unite what Reddit hadn't fully.

[–] StrayCatFrump@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

It's owned by Microsoft now. Not like M$ is any better than Reddit. Software devs unionized? Nope. Didn't think so.

[–] squidzorz@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pretty rich coming from the guys who overly moderate players' private Minecraft servers up to and including banning players for saying a no-no word...

[–] dark_stang@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If they're banning people who use slurs, I'm all for it and beehaw may not be the place for you.

[–] araly@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

if you're not aware of that whole thing, the issue is not that mojang is banning people for using slurs, it's that their list of bad words with way too broad, and you might get banned for saying "night" or I think even "zzzzz" or whatever things you might say as you're going to sleep.

banning for slur, yes very good banning for a word that's in a naughty list that's not bad or even pretty common, that's silly

[–] IcedCoffeeBitch@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

That's from the Bedrock censoring, not Java. And even on Bedrock iirc those were a bug that was fixed.

[–] JshKlsn@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hate this response.

Mojang also spies on your private server hosted on your own PC with your own internet playing with your own friends.

Mojang shouldn't get that kind of control. That's crazy.

Also, does Mojang require photo ID before they ban people for "slurs"? I'm not sure if a black person should get banned for saying the N word on their own private server.

Maybe if Mojang helps pay for my internet bill or my electricity bill they can have control over my private server. Until then, they can kindly screw off.

And the fact they've released patches specifically to block mods that remove chat reporting and nothing else goes to show how scummy they are.

Chat reporting should only be enabled on PUBLIC REALM servers hosted by Mojang. That's really the only place you can justify what they are doing.

[–] Cylinsier@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I agree with that but they have also at times banned people for just regular swearing on their own private servers.

[–] Evoke3626@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Being anti freedom of speech (as a concept not the law) is fucking cringe.

No beehaw isn’t the place for me.

[–] sudo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Giving Nazis a platform is fucking cringe.

[–] oblast@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

reddit finds out that telling people they don't actually own their own communities is....... counter-productive??/?!??!?!??! 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

That's a pretty kickass statement.

Walking away from a 7,000,000 user subreddit is a BFD.

[–] xc2215x@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe there will be more. Who knows.

[–] genoxidedev1@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The spez cucks are in full action on the r/technology repost, as usual.

[–] Zabuxx@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Let's invite them over!

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