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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem has ordered lie detector tests for DHS staff to identify leaks that allegedly foiled immigration raids, including a failed Colorado operation targeting Venezuelan gang members.

The directive, leaked to Bloomberg, requires polygraph questions about unauthorized communications with media and nonprofits. Despite polygraphs' unreliability, DHS insists they are necessary for national security.

The crackdown follows frustration from Trump’s border czar Tom Homan over compromised raids and aligns with broader MAGA-era efforts to control government communication.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago

Dhs should take the classes the inventor of the lie detector offers on how to beat it

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago

Despite polygraphs' unreliability, DHS insists they are necessary for national security.

in keeping with tradition, “national security” continues to mean “because i say so”.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 10 points 16 hours ago

People like her are dumb enough to believe "lie detector" tests are completely dependable and always print out perfectly clear "lie" and "not lie" results. Everyone else knows polygraph tests are inadmissible in court for a reason and require a lot of careful prep and interpretation. Even then, they're far from 100%.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 2 points 16 hours ago

What's the betting that this is the result of indiscreet dick waving from more MAGA centred members of staff?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Daily reminder that there's no such thing as an accurate lie detector test. Completely unscientific. Illegal to use except by government and it's basically a scare tactic/way to deny/fire people they don't have other cause for.

[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

Ah, you have half of it.

Totally made up metrics but used by govt. Meaning that if there was ever an easy way to purge ICE and DHS of brown people, this is an easy, no fuss way to do it.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I reckon she’s also somewhat leaky.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What are the odds of her submitting to a test?

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 152 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If the lie detectors don't work, torture is always an option.

Do we call them the Gestapo yet or is it too soon?

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lie detectors don’t work except as an intimidation technique so, yes, it’s Gestapo time.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They work great...

At detecting how nervous someone is.

Just completely shut at detecting when someone's lying.

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Yup. Sociopaths are invisible on the lie detector. Plus these days, it isn't that hard to build a biofeedback practice device so people control the metrics monitored by the polygraph.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Lie detectors are known to not work

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's gazpacho! - Empty G.

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[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 95 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Why is Noem wearing a bulletproof vest in a staff meeting?

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Cuz she’s a bitch and she expects what she did to that dog

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Realistic assessment of the mood of people forced to be around her?

Honestly ya may not be far off, humans even profligates like those in Trumps orbit have a generally good enough ability to detect when folks are pissed at them. When said pissed folks have access to weapons, are more intelligent than you, and probably think what you are saying is beyond stupid then well wearing a comfort vest is probably the only thing keeping her from booking it out of the room.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 22 points 1 day ago

Which is why she's ordered the lie detectors. They only know what they see in the movies, and lie detectors are one of their favorite devices.

[–] onecarmel@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

She’s a very serious person with very serious things going on! /s

She’s worried someone will put her down like she did her dog

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[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 day ago

You ever seen the dictator warlords constantly wearing miliary gear with too much polish and a thousand made up medals?

That's why.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Funniest thing about that is they only help in an all-out fire fight to protect your vital bits except the head which would have a helmet. She’s not going into any situation nearly so dangerous and if someone wanted to take her out, specifically, there’s plenty of options.

She might as well have a mall ninja sword strapped to her back.

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[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

She wants to feel special

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

maybe animals lovers might not like her.

[–] MdRuckus@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it. - George Costanza

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a lie if the person interpreting the test says it is.

[–] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

The card said moops

[–] Chefdano3@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It should be pretty common knowledge that lie detector tests are completely bogus and can't be trusted. They're not admissible in court cases. Polygraph tests are proven to be made up pseudoscience.

They might as well try using crystal pendulum tests to dowse out the national security threats.

I want to point out - the results are inadmissible, but anything you say IS admissable.

A polygraph is an interrogation technique. And to this day I still don't know why they try to use it with so many things. Like security clearance. It doesn't really give them any insight into anything about you, other than if you like to run your mouth

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oooh, when do we get to deploy the E-Meters?

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago

I have a device to sell to the DHS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADE_651

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I’m going to sell divining rods to help find the immigrants.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

All the kings horses

and all the kings men

Couldn’t make Americans think

cops were bad again

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 14 points 1 day ago

Gucci just needs to come out with bullet proof vests. They won’t work for shit, but all the republican women will buy one.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago

“This isn’t a game,” Homan raged to the Associated Press. “We know that TDA is dangerous. Everybody can agree to that, but when they get a heads-up that we are coming, it’s only a matter of time before our officers are ambushed. Their job is dangerous enough. So we are going to address this very seriously.”

I don't think that leaking this is a good idea, but come on. If gangs find out in advance that they're about to be raided, are they going to disappear or seriously voluntarily going to stay and have a shootout with DHS?

Like, this can certainly mess up investigations, but I have a pretty hard time believing that it's going to get DHS agents killed.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago

I for one am very excited and sleep soundly now, knowing complete idiots are in control of the United States.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

She gets her training and ideas from episodes of NCIS and CSI... and their neverending variants.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

"Enhance. Enhance."

"Ma'am, images don't work that w-"

"YOU'RE NOT ENHANCING!"

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

I like that her directive to combat leaking was itself leaked.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

That is the single most ridiculous picture I've seen all week.

And that's saying something.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They’d be just as successful using a ouija board.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

What makes you think they want to successful? They probably already identified their scapegoat, and just want to add a veneer of “proof”

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