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LibreWolf is to Firefox what BetterBird is to Thunderbird? (www.betterbird.eu)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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Had never heard of this before today. Anyone tried it?

EDIT: "Being a fork of Mozilla Thunderbird, the software collects some data about the user, less than the original Mozilla Thunderbird, as outlined in Thunderbird's privacy statement. No data is submitted to Betterbird, some data may be submitted to Mozilla. No telemetry and no crash reports are submitted, however, add-on updates and blocklists are downloaded from Mozilla sites. Betterbird offers a product Start Page which processes access data as described above."

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[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Librewolf is a privacy oriented fork of Firefox, it grabs some setting from arkenfox. Betterbird is not a privacy oriented fork of Thunderbird as far as I remember. When I tried it the only thing I was attracted to was its tray support, but as I use non DE compositors, so far wayfire, labwc and sway (tabbed layout), and as there's currently a Firefox bug, I didn't see any reason to keep trying it, and now on sway with tabbed layout I see no reason for a tray any ways...

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

fork and arkenfox

[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks !

[-] A_norny_mousse@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

Interesting.

Did you read their website/faq? It very clearly tells me that Betterbird has a very different focus than LibreWolf. It's not about Privacy, it's about fixing bugs.

[-] Oxidize@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

What you're looking for is Dove:

Dove is a suite of configurations & advanced modifications for Mozilla Thunderbird, designed to put the user first - with a focus on privacy, security, freedom, & usability.

https://codeberg.org/celenity/Dove

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you very much! Will definitely take a look. 🙂

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

Hopefully we can get a Betterbird mobile app one day.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

Try FairEmail. It's the closest thing I've found.

https://f-droid.org/packages/eu.faircode.email/

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I was looking into k-9 mail and it seemed decent

What stuff did you want to have in a mobile app?

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

K-9 mail is literally Thunderbird. It’s been rebranded and taken over by Mozilla. They’re keeping the k-9 branding as its own (otherwise identical) app as a nostalgia token for the people that have used it for a long time.

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 years ago

Will it work with K-9/Thunderbird for Android?

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

What do you mean "work with", it's a different-ass client? Do you mean if it's possible to import settings?

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

The email servers themselves are separate (ex. Gmail, your school email server, work email server, etc.).

Thunderbird / K9 are clients that let you access the email on your device

So they should all be compatible with each other

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Ok, duh, you're both right of course; late night/early morning brain fart here 🧠💨

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

No. Betterbird adds random features.

[-] Linearity@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago

Interested in info about this and other mail clients on Linux too.

I tried linking my institution’s outlook to kmail. Multiple times. Never worked. Betterbird took the email and immediately autogenerated a working configuration.

[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 2 points 2 years ago

Are there the same problems with Thunderbird as with Firefox?

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

There are no "problems" with Firefox. The problems are with Mozilla and how they operate Firefox, so they could easily start affecting Thunderbird too.

[-] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I tried to use LibreWolf yesterday. The Flatpak version wasn't supported by KeePassXC, so that was a pass for me. The Fedora version did work with it, but it was also freezing my system and causing graphical glitches that were so terrible, I thought my hardware died. There were coloured blocks as well as weird pixelated warping. It's probably because I have Wayland, and I noticed that the Fedora version ran under X. I would have submitted a bug report, but I didn't even know where to start. Maybe I'll do that eventually.

E: I have narrowed this down with journalctl to be an issue with amdgpu. This happenes on Firefox as well, but not other applications somehow. It's something to do with a gfxhub page fault. I'll have to see whether an older kernel version might help.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Strange - I'm on Fedora Wayland using the flatpak version without any issues.

[-] CedarA64@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

No issues with the flatpak version on OpenSUSE Leap with KDE Wayland either.

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