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[-] KeraKali@lemmy.world 59 points 2 years ago

I'm gonna need some names because I only recognize like, two.

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 84 points 2 years ago

Going from lawful to chaotic, good to evil, we have:

  • Gecko (Firefox, Seamonkey, and derivatives)
  • Servo
  • Libweb (Ladybird)
  • Links2 (as well as ELinks and other forks)
  • WebKit (used in a lot of stuff, namely Safari and GNOME Web)
  • Goanna (Pale Moon and Basilisk)
  • QtWebEngine (Konqueror, Falkon, and qutebrowser)
  • Blink (Chromium, Brave, and derivatives)
  • Trident (Internet Explorer, old versions of Maxthon, old versions of Avant, and any homemade browser created with Visual Studio).
[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 45 points 2 years ago

(until they get a new lead dev, Ladybird is definitely not any type of “Good”)

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 23 points 2 years ago

100%, this is either uninformed or some apologia

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

What's going on? I've seen this new browser engine referenced recently a decent bit but I have no info beyond 'it's new and exists'.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 39 points 2 years ago

the lead dev is a freeze peach absolutist. he's said some ignorant shit about trans people and when people said "hey, let's adjust this language" he was like "let's not get political"

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

That's unfortunate :(

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[-] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago

Also a quick cliff notes on what each is would be greatly appreciated

I only recognize the Chromium icon...

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

These are browser engines, or at least software for rendering HTML but not necessarily the actual browser. I don’t know them all, but top left, Gecko, is the engine for Mozilla, center is Web Kit for Safari, bottom center is Chromium for Chrome, Brave, Edge, etc., and bottom right is Trident, the old engine for Microsoft Internet Explorer.

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[-] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 2 years ago

chaotic good? ladybird? the browser by devs that refuse to use your pronouns?

https://github.com/SerenityOS/serenity/pull/6814

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People are losing their shit, calling for boycotts, and throwing around accusations of transphobia over comments in the source code and a single line of documentation? Seriously? And brigading the developer three years after the fact‽ I was ready to write off Ladybird, but damn, this was taken way out of proportion.

I'm all in for equal treatment, but people need to get a perspective. Such an extreme reaction will ultimately hurt the cause they're trying to advocate for. Getting bent out of shape and publicly brigading something for every perceived slight, every time someone's feelings are hurt, or can't get their way, will get them -- and the demographic or movement they represent -- labelled as undesirable.

[-] coldsideofyourpillow@lemmy.cafe 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've checked out the PR, and it does look bad. But I'd like to see a justification. The comment seems blatantly transphobic/misogynistic. Seems like you're saying that my understanding is extreme. How could yours be refuted?

Brigading was clearly not justified, but as per my apparently extreme opinions, so isn't the original reply?

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[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Oh what the fuck, dev came off like a fucking ass to a minor suggestion.

[-] Kr4u7@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Old news - fix is already in production Proof

Please check your sources :)

[-] call_me_xale@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The fact that someone else fixed the issue doesn't really excuse the absolutely unacceptable original response to a very reasonable request.

I'm much more interested in seeing an apology, or any sort of indication that the dev understands how disrespectful they were.

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Lmao, a weird choice of a hill to die on. Although, given I've seen ppl refer to a user account as "he" exactly 0 times before that, I suspect the dev may speak smth like French natively, where everything is either male or female.

That said, i'd rather use "it" instead of "they", given an account (and anon one at that) is not a person.

[-] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 years ago

I'm fairly certain the main dev is swedish

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Huh, checked out their noun genders, and those are quite interesting: 2 genders, but common and neuter instead of masculine and feminine. So out goes that theory

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[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Why is QtWebEngine considered evil?

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

It's effectively Chromium.

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[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago

khtml deserves to be in the gift to humanity category

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not sure I have a lot of faith in Servo but we are in need of anything better than Gecko. Ladybird is the new one on the block and we will see if it goes anywhere. I like that Ladybird it's own web browser.

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[-] milliams@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

Where's KHTML? The O.G. GOAT.

[-] Baleine@jlai.lu 10 points 2 years ago

Well that's WebKit now

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What the fuck? Safari is neutral???

[-] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

That is Webkit, not Safari. Lots of things other than Safari use it.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago
[-] qaz@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Gnome's browser uses it afaik

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[-] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 years ago

Ladybird is certainly interesting to watch, it's improving quite quickly.

I know people on here hate it because of one (admittedly not at all nice) gender issue in the codes comments but like... seriously?

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