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Donald Trump signed an executive order on Thursday that instructs the US education secretary, Linda McMahon, to start dismantling the Department of Education, seemingly attempting to circumvent the need to obtain congressional approval to formally close a federal department.

The administration may eventually pursue an effort to get Congress to shut down the agency, Trump said at a signing ceremony at the White House on Thursday, because its budget had more than doubled in size in recent years but national test scores had not improved.

The federal government does not mandate curriculum in schools; that has been the responsibility of state and local governments, which provide 90% of the funding to schools. Nevertheless, at the White House, Trump repeated his campaign promise to “send education back to the states”.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Bruh, how did you get a photograph of me?

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This sounds like some horrendous Taliban level shit but living in a federal system myself (Australia), k-12 education is primarily a state responsibility here as I believe it is in the US. I wouldn't want to see this happen in my own country but it wouldn't be the same as closing down the department of education in an unfederated country like New Zealand or most European nations where it would be disastrous.

Inconsistencies between states here (Australia) used to negatively impact students moving between states and entering tertiary education. Federal systems can be grossly inmeficient and full of duplication and barriers between states.

Unfortunately not having national standards is probably going to increase economic disadvantage in already disadvantaged red states which will only increase division in the US.

[–] oxysis@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

K-12 schools here are mostly handled by the states just like yours. But what this will mean is that FASFA will go in the near future, don't believe what the MAGAts will say about it being left alone because it will not last. They will likely try to kill it quickly in a few weeks or a few months if we are lucky. Without FASFA hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of current and future college students will not be able to afford to attend college and university. Private students loans are hyper predatory and not an option for the vast majority of students.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wasn't aware of FASFA. I just looked at the distribution of funds by state and it looks like this is an overwhelming loss for red states, far worse than I expected.

I know the US is fucking weird politically and culturally but anywhere else I would say if MAGA don't accelerate the transition from populism to authoritarianism they are leaving the door open to an alternative populist movement to give them a real thrashing in their heartland.

[–] Volkov@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Our system does not allow for the creation of real competing political parties outside of the 2 party system, and the Democrats are a controlled opposition with right of center politics, so this will never happen here

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's really no different here, i experienced it first hand as a kid moving between states. My gifted classes in a North Carolina elementary school were equivalent to several grade levels lower in Florida. The Dept. of Education is mostly about setting minimum standards, ensuring equal access, making sure children aren't discriminated against, and other regulations.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As if newer American generations didn't already have enough reasons to refrain from starting families and having children. I'm sure this is going to turn that trend right around.

[–] arrow74@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well boys see you on the front lines when we get shipped to Canada.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

They wouldn't dare. If they drafted kids to fight fucking Canada there would be more defections than Canadian casualties.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They are turning America into what they turned the Middle East into, a nation run by zealous Christian oligarchs, where women have no rights and where the most important thing above even education and justice is your faith.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I like how people will say "he can't do that" but do nothing to prevent it

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The "dumb American" stereotype is about to become reality.

[–] warrenson 3 points 1 year ago

They're gonna do what they did with BMI, basically make an F a passing grade.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really hold a lot of innate respect for the founding fathers of this country. I mean some of them individually of course but as a whole I don't think they were special or more enlightened than other people. However even I have to wonder what it would be like to go back to the past and show them this. Just see how they would react. Surely even a bunch of rich white land owning men would see problems with this right?

[–] muxika@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

As a teacher and parent with special-needs children, I am absolutely devastated. It's not a surprise from the party of family values, though. You can feel the disdain from conservative parents, and even from some of the students.