128
submitted 2 years ago by meiko60@lemmy.sdf.org to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml
all 31 comments
sorted by: hot top new old
[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 years ago

China has been trying for a decade with zero success, best of luck

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yep, precisely this. It's extremely hard to block arbitrary internet traffic and everyone who thinks China lives in a propagandized bubble with no exit is deluding themselves.

FWIW, VPN enforcement is much more strict in Xinjiang and Tibet so I think Chinese authorities have the capability, they just choose to not exert it most of the time (to avoid an ever-escalating arms race lol).

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Got any suggestions for software?

I run openvpn normally and I've tried shadowsocks but neither have gotten through the vpn blocks I've tested against.

[-] Gellis12@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Tor. It's free, it works, and there's nobody to sell you out when the cops come knocking.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I'm looking for something self-hosted for secure access to my LAN, not just to reach open internet unfortunately.

[-] Gellis12@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

If you're just looking for remote access, openvpn on port 443 should (in theory) be indistinguishable from normal https traffic.

[-] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Wasn't Russia able to block traffic from Tor?

[-] Gellis12@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

If they did, I haven't heard about it. China has been trying and failing to block tor for decades though, so I kinda doubt Russia managed to beat them to it overnight.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

Both astrill and protonvpn sashayed straight past the great firewall when I visited. There was some free Chinese vpn, greenvpn I think, that worked too, but was slow.

[-] residentmarchant@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

What's the reasoning for this? Surely it's not that difficult to block all traffic pointing to "vpn.protonvpn.com" (simplified url for the sake of argument)

Even if a VPN provider had 100 URLs to tunnel traffic through, they would all be found in a matter of time, no?

[-] apt_install_coffee@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The difficulty is that a VPN isn't just a product like ProtonVPN, it's a huge family of software and protocols.

You can block vpn.protonvpn.com, but since most operating systems come with VPN functionality out of the box, you'd have to start listening to all traffic (not just DNS lookups) and blocking ALL packets that might be VPN traffic without causing regular disruption to non-vpn traffic.

TL;DR: it's easy to prevent unmotivated users from downloading a VPN app. It's practically impossible to block a motivated user from using a VPN, and they're the users you particularly care about.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Demand for VPN services soared after Russia restricted access to some Western social media after President Vladimir Putin ordered troops into Ukraine in February 2022.

Senator Artem Sheikin said an order from the Roskomnadzor watchdog would come into force on March 1 that would block VPNs.

"From March 1, 2024, an order will come into force to block VPN services providing access to sites banned in Russia," Sheikin was quoted as saying by state news agency RIA.

Phone calls to the number listed by Roskomnadzor as its press service were answered by a voice message with the Bobby McFerrin song "Don't Worry Be Happy".

Sheikin said that it was particularly important to block access to Meta Platforms (META.O), which owns Facebook, Instagram and WhatsApp.

"I would like to note that it is especially important to restrict citizens' access to the products of Meta which is recognised as an extremist organization," Sheikin added.


The original article contains 216 words, the summary contains 152 words. Saved 30%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

That is new. Meta is absolute shit, but I never thought to classify it as an extremist organization. A Russian propaganda outlet maybe, but extremist?

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

It's really an economic protectionist scheme. Currently, Russian money is flowing into American pockets, and that's obviously undesirable.

this post was submitted on 04 Oct 2023
128 points (95.7% liked)

World News

41611 readers
294 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

founded 6 years ago
MODERATORS