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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 145 points 1 year ago

I mean... if we reeeaaally wanna carbon date ourselves...

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago
[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

The whole man is insufficient Data, I love Data so much 🥹

[-] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

All that's missing is the modem ear rape.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Unironically I love that so much lol

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

On the off chance you haven't experienced the Floppotron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oym7B7YidKs

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I fuckin love the floppotron! 🥰

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[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 1 year ago

There were reports of teenage boys becoming so conditioned that they would get an erection when they heard a modem dialling

The internet has always been about porn

The first ever image digitally transmitted was a playboy centrefold. "The Lena"

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Didn't GIFs load from the bottom?

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[-] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

pngcrush gets it down to 21.1 kB with no loss of quality.
I tried posting the file, but Lemmy converts it to the atrocious webp format automatically.
EDIT: JPEG-XL clocks in at just 16.3 kB, again with no loss of quality.

[-] MHLoppy@fedia.io 16 points 1 year ago

the atrocious webp format

I continue to be confused by the level of widespread hate WebP still gets. It's old enough to be widely (albeit not universally) supported in software like web browsers, but new enough to provide similar-or-better (usually better) lossless compression than PNG (21,578 bytes for the original image) and typically better lossy compression than JPEG at comparable perceived quality, especially for the types of images typically shared on the internet (rather than say, images saved directly from a DLSR camera). It's why servers bother to re-encode JPEG images to WebP for delivery - they wouldn't bother wasting the compute time to re-compress if it wasn't generally worth doing.

I can understand it if we were, say, 10-15 years ago when the format was still not super widely supported yet, but that's basically where we are with JPEG XL and AVIF support right now too. If one of these two had exactly the level of support that WebP does right now then yes, of course we should probably use one of them instead - but we're not there yet. Until we are, WebP often has the best compromise between compatibility and compression efficiency as far as image formats go, and that's why a lot of sites do this re-compression thing using WebP. I gave some examples using digital art (one of the things I was compressing a lot at the time) a year ago in a related discussion: https://lemmy.world/post/6665251/4462007

A news website local to me recently-ish started choosing to deliver AVIF-compressed (or probably re-compressed) images the same way a lot of sites currently do it for WebP because my browser supports AVIF, so at least we are starting to see a token amount of uptake on the next-gen formats in the wild.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm a dev and webp is incredible. Don't really understand the hate - it's a libre format that is lighyears ahead of png or jpg in every measurable metric. The lack of support is entirely on app developers and their incompetence not the format.

The other formats like jpeg xl are only catching up now when webp was out for 14 years already.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Everyone should use jxl for their photos

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

JXL for the win! when will we get support for it in firefox though..

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[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 36 points 1 year ago

This JPEG is just 41 KiB, which was the style shortly after I was born.

[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 36 points 1 year ago

Excuse me, I forgot the text. Wouldn't be fair without all that entropy. To make up for it, I turned on chroma subsampling. This one is 39 KiB.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be more accurate, the dithering was more specific to animated gifs and not static pictures. Unless you go back really far... I remember finding porn on 5 inch floppies my dad had in his closet and even the non-animated images were black & white and dithered to hell. Though I am pretty sure he didn't obtain those off the internet.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Dithered Street Fighter porn?

how small can u get this with the text still readable?

[-] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I turned on chroma subsampling

A simplified polygonal scene, originally from Futurama scene that's styled like anime. Fry is saying "You and I are enemies now." while pointing at a jpegified Professor Farnsworth. Meta note: The scene was made in the Godot game engine.

43KiB, though obviously a chunk of that is from the colors of the jpg Professor.

EDIT: I just noticed webp messes with colors around the edges too (which would matter more if I cut the resolution in half or so). The original .png (what I actually uploaded) doesn't at 51.6KiB.

Also obviously this would be less data in non-pixel format (well, it'd likely be eaten up by overhead for packaging, though after that it would allow tons of art for negligible data cost). Would be smaller as an svg for example (or an swf).

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Dithering is much older than jpeg.

They used dithering in printed media, so it was transfered to digital media as a way to save on color depth, before jpeg got invented.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Avif, without alpha channel, 17.6 KB

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

We listened to music as 41kB RealAudio files that sounded like the song was underwater, which was the style at the time.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Fyi, dithering hinders most modern compression algorythms, making the pic bigger.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dithering is so fucking cool. At some point I wanna check out that game that uses a ton of really stylized dithering - return of the obra djin I think?

[-] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago

Obra Dinn's filter hurt my eyes. A lot of these filters do and glad many are toggles in the options.

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[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Dithering is still to this day extremely useful for making custom wall art in Minecraft using maps, because maps have a very specific and limited pallette.

[-] Saltycracker@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

They looked like they just came from a vault from fallout

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

Back when image compression was just reducing the resolution and color depth.

i mean yeah, its a honest loss of information, jpg on the other hand introduces compression artifacts that are basically hallucinations, meaning it pretends to have more data than it actually has and humans compensate for that thru image recognition and fantasy.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's what dithering is
An artifact that your brain processes as something else.

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[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

This.exe file including music and visuals is 4KB

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] realitista@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I miss dithering. It's got a certain je ne sais quoi.

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