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cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/23704984

So I wrote a blog post on how I feel we can encourage more people to fedi, and it starts with DON'T TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THE FEDIVERSE, because I'm very clever, or something. Would be happy to get your thoughts on that!

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[–] artifex@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I actually think this is the biggest argument for using something like piefed over lemmy. The ability to aggregate multiple similar communities into a single channel lets you see/interact with a fuller content feed for even more niche areas while not having said niche be reliant on a particular instance.

[–] thegreenman@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you elaborate on this?

[–] artifex@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From this recent blog post, Recently PieFed added a way to group communities into collections of related communities, which we called a “Feed”. Unlike Topics, Feeds are federated, can be created by anyone and can be public or private. There are now hundreds of feeds at https://piefed.social/feeds.

This lets niche topic communities continue to spawn across instances (thus avoiding all-eggs-in-one-basket issues) but makes it more convenient for users to see all similar content in a single place.

[–] thegreenman@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

That is absolutely amazing, and a step in good direction, I hope it gets wider adoption and that the PieFed creator's pillow is always cool, and that he finds an unexpected fiver in his pocket every week for the rest of his life 🙏

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also about the comments fragmentation: https://piefed.zip/post/100161

All comments from 5 crossposts in a single view

A few options

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's so nice on everyday posting thank the maker.

[–] thegreenman@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com does this have all the comments from cross-posts in various communities? That is amazing!

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, it does. Quite life changing.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I agree with the core argument - we need to focus more on communities (as "groups of people sharing something").

Not talking about the Fediverse

This will become increasingly more viable over time, as we [people already in the Fediverse] establish and nurture more communities. For now, however, I think a lot of recs still need to be about the Fediverse itself - because it's how you show people "you don't need to subject yourself to the whims of a Nazi billionaire or the greedy pigboy aping him".

Not talking about apps

I think it's important to be aware of a few options, and be able to answer questions about apps, but I fully agree we shouldn't advertise the Fediverse based on apps. Specially since you can always check the content without one, even from a phone.

Smaller and focused instances

Yup, I agree. It's better for two reasons: more attractive to newbies + it keeps the Fediverse decentralised.

General purpose instances have some reason to exist, as not everything "fits" into neat boxes. But I think this will change as the Fediverse gets more mature, too; people eventually migrate from the general purpose instances to more specific ones, as they find their own homes here.

A manga panel from Junji Ito's The Enigma of Amigara Fault. In it a person enters a human-shaped crevice, while saying "this is my hole! it was made for me!". Both the face of the person entering the crevice and the crevice itself have been edited to show the Lemmy logo instead.

[–] thegreenman@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Hi!

because it’s how you show people “you don’t need to subject yourself to the whims of a Nazi billionaire or the greedy pigboy aping him”.

I still think it's better done on the case-by-case, and instance basis, as mentioned, Don't talk about fediverse was realy meant as a provocation (and it's working :P), I just think we would do better shifting the topic of conversation from technicals and infrastructure and apis to communities and content, because to be honest I believe it is already here.

I think it’s important to be aware of a few options, and be able to answer questions about apps, but I fully agree we shouldn’t advertise the Fediverse based on apps. Specially since you can always check the content without one, even from a phone.

💯 Absolutely. Apps are amazing, but people don't want the app because it is shiny, but because of what it can give them. Community, topics, 'content'.

people eventually migrate from the general purpose instances to more specific ones, as they find their own homes here.

I believe it is already happening, honestly, and I love it!

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

I think point someone to the web rather than clients. Let people start seeing content and they can get a client once they’re bought-in.