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It is very telling that the big donors would rather try to split the democrat vote than rally behind a popular candidate.
IMO, Dems have to allow the new generations to finally have their say and invite fresh ideas, or fatally break the party.
If they keep letting the money work against their voters, they're choosing the latter.
The party has been fatally broken for a while; it's mostly a question of if and when the left realizes that and gets to work.
FPTP will always lead to dysfunctional parties.
There are at least 3 "natural" parties inside of the Democratic, and at least 2 in the Republicans. At local level primaries can mitigate the issue somewhat, but a national level it will always lead to conflict.
I'm pretty sure it's a known strategy of a handful of billionaires (the richest man in PA comes to mind, though I forget his name) to back moderate dems to shift the board to the right.
remember- (large in this sense) donors are capitalists. they donate not out of the kindness of their hearts…
Democratic elite shitting themselves at the prospect of winning an election.
The Democratic establishment is seriously onsidering backing either a corrupt sex offender or a corrupt trump ally over an energetic, charismatic young candidate with a platform that enjoys majority support.
The rich have two parties, people have none.
We need to change that.
These Democrats would rather have a Republican than someone like Zohran. They're losing a generation. The next President will be another Republican if they refuse to see the writing on the wall.
I will say that the inner party Democrats are absolutely not going to learn any lesson from this.
They will lose the 2028 and wonder who they need to blame outside of themselves. I've honestly tried voicing my concerns with the TN Democrat party, but LOL they don't give a bleep about anything from the State of TN.
I'll keep speaking my mind but shoot it doesn't feel like anything is going to move the needle with them.
they will refuse. It really begs the question-- as the DNC is a private corporation is it even possible to throw all the bums out and bring it back around as a party of the people.
lol, they put ol' Uncle Touchy up against a fresh face telling people what they actually want to hear and are shocked (SHOCKED!) fewer people want the wrinkled old sex pest?
Vote Blue No Matter Who, right?
Not any more. I will freely admit that this last round of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and letting the fascists win has broken me. I will absolutely and seriously consider voting 3p going forward.
Edit: and for what it’s worth, I can recall getting in some disputes with you on that topic before the election. You were right; I was wrong. I hadn’t realized we were already at that point sociopolitically, but we were.
They should be fucking ecstatic there's this simple way to win elections with minimal funding but they are too far up corporate America's asshole
Liberals being hypocrites, very smerprising.
The dnc and the centrist democrats will bow their heads before the progressives or they will be cast aside into the dustbins of history.
They are just upset they didn’t get everything they want. They’ll have to get over it I guess and start voting progressive no matter who.
They're still the wing of puma pac.
Stop shaking your head about the shitty establishment and work to enlarge the leftist part of the DNC
Major Democratic donors — who poured tens of millions into a Super PAC for Cuomo — were having private discussions Wednesday about whether to back an independent run by Cuomo in November's general election, or rally behind unpopular incumbent Mayor Eric Adams, who's also running as an independent.
Brain damage
Minimal funding means not enough people got paid
I wouldn't exactly call this melting down and a few people aren't the "establishment":
On Wednesday, many Democratic lawmakers and officials either denounced Mamdani or notably declined to rally around him. Republicans — including President Trump — crowed about Democrats embracing a democratic socialist who has called for reduced police funding and sided with Palestinians in the Gaza war.
- The top two Democratic leaders in Congress, Sen. Chuck Schumer and Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, both New Yorkers, declined to endorse Mamdani even as they applauded his victory.
- New York Rep. Laura Gillen, from Nassau County, called Mamdani the "absolute wrong choice for New York."
- Rep. Tom Suozzi, also from Nassau County, said he had "serious concerns."
If the top two Democrats in government aren't the establishment, who the hell is?
Ah, maybe. I don't like either one of those, Jeffries is a sell out and has been for a long time. I guess I just don't listen to them and consider them the mouthpiece of the worst of the democratic party. Bernie Sanders is more my speed and I consider him establishment.