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[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Wait why are democrats fighting him? I thought he was socialist or something

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 146 points 1 year ago

Democrats aren't fighting him, the DNC (Democratic National Convention) is. The party doesn't want him as their representative, because he doesn't match their values. But he represents what the Democrat constituents actually want and the DNC fears losing control over their constituents, so they want to ensure he loses the race.

The DNC and the RNC basically want the same thing, except the Democratic Party is much more subtle about it. The US doesn't actually have a left-wing party. Both our major parties are right-wing by global standards. So any truly left-wing candidates scare them, and they'll fight tooth and nail to keep them out of elections.

Even Cuomo, who was completely stomped in the primaries, is still planning to run in the election as an independent. Their hope is that his run will split the party and make Mamdani lose. If the Democratic Party can't get their man in the election, then they'll throw the race and take everyone down with them.

[-] greenskye@lemmy.zip 86 points 1 year ago

The DNC and the RNC basically want the same thing, except the Democratic Party is much more subtle about it.

The old RNC. The new Republicans have taken over and actually do want all the fascist hateful stuff. The old guard courted crazies and those crazies took over.

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

True. The more right the DNC leans, the more extremist right the RNC leans, to differentiates themselves from Democrats.

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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Which, fuckin' honestly, should be an object lesson for anyone who wants to advance progressive politics in this country. Engage in primary after primary and take over the party from within until the old guard are appalled at what it has become, except do that with good goals instead of horrifying ones.

And remember that by the time the election itself is at hand, it's too late to make meaningful change in the party platform. The primaries are what actually matter when it comes to changing course. Everything after that, it's just a binary choice between which of the major candidates you actually want in power.

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[-] cogman@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

That's actually the exact reason democrats are fighting him.

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[-] Photuris@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

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[-] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

That's why they're fighting him. Money go brr and money is scared.

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[-] Grail@aussie.zone 29 points 1 year ago

He's popular with the voters. He's going to stomp New York, and then he'll start looking at the presidency. And he might win that, too. And then they'd have to pass bills, and their donors would be mad.

They'd rather run bad candidates and lose.

[-] bilb@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

He's not eligible to run for president because he was born in Uganda.

[-] Grail@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Damn, I forgot the constitution was racist

[-] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Fortunately the constitution doesn't matter anymore. Run him anyway!

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[-] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 21 points 1 year ago

Honestly if you put the DNC in other countries they wouldn't be considered left.

Even the UK who's current "left" PM is actually extremely centre, but compare the DNC to him they would still be more right than him.

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

In any other country they'd be the conservative party.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

He said billionaires shouldn't exist. If billionaires didn't exist who would fund their campaigns running on platforms that allow billionaires to hoard wealth unimpeded?

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Now do you believe people when they say they have a 2 party system with Republicans vs ~~Democrats~~ other republicans?

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[-] selfdefense420@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

the fate of this country is ultimately in the hands of the people, not the dems or republicans. we can bitch about who's not doing the right thing or we can do it ourselves.

arm yourself. stop waiting on someone else to fix it.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Whom are you going to shoot in order to fix this genocidal cult? You're not going to outgun the cops, military, etc. You can't shoot a disgusting, anti-life, capitalist "culture". Grow up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[-] Snowies@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago

If my choice is being taken away to the camps, or going out in a blaze of glory fighting for my freedom….

Guess which one I’ll pick?

[-] selfdefense420@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

but if you're willing to go "out in a blaze of glory", why wouldn't you just shoot them before they get to your door?

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

Something something class interests something something

[-] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Can have actual socialists getting a foot hold anywhere.

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Let's keep putting the same candidates out there and hope for a different outcome.

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