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[–] Lamhfada@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fascist governments got to fascist.

Targeting the LGBTQ+ population and eroding their rights and making it a focus during a time of an international cost of living crisis, is a tried and true practice of the right wing to hide their incompetence in governing and in matters of economy.

[–] dylcarinc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still can’t believe that Meloni got elected. Watching the far right rise all over Europe has been disturbing.

[–] theceoofanarchism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you can't like to see it and what it signals. Either literal fascists or neo-liberals who's opinions are little better are in power all around the world currently.

[–] dylcarinc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At least the Conservatives will probably go down in Britain next year, but the Labour Party has just been pathetic lately.

[–] gerbler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Labour hasn't been a party of labour in decades. Sad times we live in.

[–] TheThemFatale@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Labour is ultimately just Tories with different colour ties. Neither support LGBTQ+ people. Either way, we will suffer.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don't think that Tories will go down. I live in Labour constituency and people here now are very anti Labour.

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's almost as if the stated goal of dividing the LGB and the TQ so that it's easier to go after the LGBTQ is going off exactly like they planned.... :/

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If they want the biological parents names, just do a DNA test on every baby. I am sure the upstanding straight citizens of Italy always know who the actual father is in every case and would be willing to submit that to public record.

[–] torezolid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I’m against the grain here but shouldn’t biological parents be on the birth certificate?

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SavouryVegan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

mah, their parents should be on there.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On a BIRTH certificate? No! That will only lead to a lot of problems in the future for the unlucky kid. Imagine kid's bio parents have some hereditary disease and without them on a BIRTH certificate doctors will never know. No. Just no.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

As an Italian, it's a cheap promise for politicians and it boosts consensus in a mainly conservative/catholic country. Removing minority rights doesn't cost anything in terms of money expenditure, which (unfortunately) is the only thing Europe is concerned of about what our government does. They are now attacking "alias careers" in education, and more to come.

[–] Demuniac@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's this thing that doesn't affect me at all in any way but I kinda think is weird, so let me crush the spirit of a minority that already gets treated like shit?

Man some people suck so much.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

It's all political, for all their talk about the traditional family, Meloni had a child outside of marriage, and Salvini is divorced.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's disgusting.

[–] Iteria@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I had such a raw disgust reading that headline. I wondered what fucking state would do that. Then I got to the end. So Italy is just speed running to open fascism. That sucks.

[–] Delta427@vlemmy.net 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

and then people ask me, an Italian, why I want to leave this country asap

[–] TwoGems@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] csolisr@communities.azkware.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the places where you can go are an ever-decreasing list. Some Nordic countries, a few EU ones, that's about it. Fascism is growing into a majority in literally the rest of the world.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fascism is not growing anywhere. But a lot of "lefties" behave like fascists for sure, so people turn away from anything that smells left.

On the other hand, modern definition of left includes authorisation ideologies and regimes, so no wonder that happens.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

This comment is making it very hard to follow my personal lemmy rule which states that I should not just comment 'you are a fucking idiot'.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Any historians care to explain why Italy jumps to fascism so quickly?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not a historian but their location makes it easy to scapegoat people so fascists can rise to power

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why does their location make it easy to scapegoat people?

[–] SocializedHermit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Edge of Europe bordering Africa and it's aspiring immigrants. Italy is often the first stop for immigrant boats, and on-shoring desperate people. All a right wing government has to do is point to those people and say how they are going to destroy everything you know. Rinse repeat, voila fascism.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it Italy? Or is it just humans?

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I choose not to believe that is humans natural path.

[–] Kinglink@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can deny it, but have you really thought about it.

Think about American Politics. "Well conservatives are just fascists." Sure, I mean there's the party that wants to control what people say, Cancelling them if they ever said anything they don't like. Want to remove all rights from people in specific parties, and mandate how others act at all times... and then there's the republicans which are also clearly fascists.

I'm not trying to say "Republicans are better than Democrats" they're not, they're clearly not. But Democrats aren't that good either. It's a problem with a desire to control others and when one party wins, they should feel they have a mandate to GOVERN but instead there's a feeling they have a mandate to RULE or CONTROL. Luckily most politicians are somewhat sane about this, but god damn, some of the die hards on both sides have lost their mind.

Power corrupts, and Absolute Power corrupts absolutely. That's kind of a fact of being human.

[–] possum@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Can you give an example outside American politics?

[–] Blamemeta@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Sounds like it's the law that's wrong, and the office and court are doing their jobs. This is on the lawmakers, and these guys aren't supposed to make their own laws.