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Me, when my new job forces macos for development
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Still better than being forced to develop on windows.
Eh. Windows has its share of annoyances, but once I have set it up to my liking my desktop workflow is very similar to my KDE setup, and WSL + Windows Terminal gives me a functional Linux shell environment.
And at least on Windows I don't have to deal with cmd/control/alt switcharoo messing up my muscle memory.
I just spent an absurd amount of time setting up my local windows environment to use node 10 and gulp with node-sass and node-gyp (complete BS). I also need to do the equivalent for our Ubuntu pipeline.
And guess what, I just need to do the same for the new team member that just joined and messed his installation with recent versions of everything.
Oh, still find that easy? Lets just throw in crowdstrike and netscope firewalls and proxies for added security and block 50% of node environment and break all TLS/SSL connexion because things are not difficult enough.
Want to use git? Sure, it's jsut 3x to 4x times slower than on Linux.
Did not pay extra carefull attention or do not know the difference between CR, LF and CRLF? let me just make your git life miserable by changing the line endings on all your files. Good luck fixing it.
I wish my job would force MacOS instead of Windows. 😭
I guess it can always get worse. 😭
Tbh I'd rather use Windows with WSL2 than MacOS, I can't use Mac without getting angry lol
I just run Fedora in a VM and do 99% of my work there.
my workaround for awk, sed, and grep has been to create symlinks in my $Path that point to gawk, gsed, and ggrep, which you can install through brew. Nix has also been useful to keep my sanity intact, tho it's a learning curve too, and when Macos updates happen you will need to fix/reinstall it. Can I ask what terminal you are using?
create symlinks in my $Path that point to gawk, gsed, and ggrep
The problem with this is that scripts assume the BSD versions of those tools. The scripts break if I do that. (I tried doing that.) 😢
The parts of the code base that can be built on both platforms is littered with:
if os == linux
awk <something>
else if os == mac
awk <something else>
Why not set an $awk var once for the right platform and then use that instead of if-on-every-call? This seems incredibly error prone and verbose for no reason...
Edit: To be clear I'm aware that it isn't about the binary, but surely most of the calls have some baseline commonality that could be abstracted? Or: Can the Linux awk be built on bsd or vice versa? Ok fine, if it was the simple, it would've probably been the solution...
I used to run linux in a vm on the work mac, which was fine. Then they managed to block it too. I tried a gentoo prefix, but did not work well enough to be usable on arm. It sucks.
The funny thing is that my manager just told me one of the development workflows is:
- create a Linux VPS on cloud
- they have tooling so that local code gets synced to remote Linux
- SSH into remote Linux
- code, dev, test, etc
😐 ... 🫲 ... 🫱 ... 🙌
brew install iproute2mac
Also docker is not on homebrew, but there is an installer for it (or you can use Orbstack, which also provides docker). Not everything is on brew, some things may have separate installers, but a very quick google search will help you find all of these.
However, journalctl might be not as helpful on mac - you can install it via brew, but it's not really mac-native.
As an OG bearded UNIX person, my advice is to learn the platform and stop fighting it - do things on the platform with the native tooling where possible as possible. From the text of your post, it seems to me that you just want to use Linux. I understand how you feel, yet this feeling is signal but not data.
Good luck and safe travels, friend.
Also docker is not on homebrew
Except that it is
https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/docker
Casks and formulas handle basically anything: non-redistributable binaries, installers, etc
my advice is to learn the platform and stop fighting it
Absolutely it… there’s a load of Mac utilities and norms I miss when I use Linux, and visa versa: it’s just different platforms… neither is better; they’re just different
Thanks for the correction, friend. I've personally been using OrbStack.
I just started a new job that's MacOS instead of Windows. I couldn't be happier.
i love how much it's changed in just ten years because i remember in the 2010s and late 2000s, every company would make me use windows despite loving the dev environment of mac (especially snow leopard).
now it's almost the opposite with wsl and all
(pls don't come at me - i actually use linux on both my laptop and desktop now i'm just saying anecdotally)
how do you guys manage to cope with the keyboard layout? the ctrl-super-alt is completely different, even if i just remap them, there will be cases they just dont work like on linux (kitty ctrl-keys, firefox ctrl-tab, etc...) even worse that i use hungarian keylayout and now i use 2 different programs (karabiner, ukulele) to have somewhat similar keys like on linux, but still not perfect ...
the ctrl-super-alt is completely different
It's not "completely different" ... and that's the problem. Completely different I can handle. I can manage knowing vim keybindings, readline keybindings and standard windows keybindings at the same time. What I can't handle is: having to use command + C on one Mac and control + C on Windows to copy, but then in some cases you do use "control" on both OS-es, and sometimes control and alt are switched ... It's because they are similar but different that it's such a mess trying to get proficient in both at the same time.
Maybe you can install wsl :)
You're supposed to install fish and forget about at least three of these commands
huh, I use fish but also use awk, sed, grep. What should I use with fish? The string commands?
Yeah, I do everything with string at this point, because it can do pretty much anything I usually need and has a quite uniform syntax, along with good regex support (and dialect imo)
Use UTM and run linux
I'd just stick to Podman
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