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[-] FardyCakes@lemmy.world 208 points 1 year ago

This is blowing my fucking mind like an artillery shell

[-] bizarroland@lemmy.world 117 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I personally find it a lot easier to compute 13% of 17, rather than 17% of 13.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 60 points 1 year ago

Same with 375% of 20 rather than 20% of 375.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

Damn, it still worked. Holy shit.

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

The few times I've seen you on Lemmy, it takes me a few seconds to process your username. Today, I had my favorite misreading yet: pronounced Ivana footerall

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 42 points 1 year ago

Thanks, now I can't unsee that, fartographer

[-] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago

Are you a "silent fartographer"?

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Seems pretty vocal to me.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I guess it's easy to miss that m% just means ×m÷100

6% of 50 means 50 × 6 ÷ 100, and because multiplication and division have the same order of operations you can switch them around. so it is also equal to 6 × 50 ÷ 100, in which you can simplify 50 ÷ 100 into 1 ÷ 2, but you could always do that: 50 × 6 ÷ 100 = 1 × 6 ÷ 2.

this "shortcut" however is of extremely limited use. basically for taking a percentage of anything other than things that can very easily divide or multiply 100 like 50 in this example or maybe 10 or 500 it's nearly useless.

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's because percent just means ×0.01 and multiplication can be rearranged

[-] wabasso@lemmy.ca 104 points 1 year ago

x/100 * y = x * 1/100 * y = x * y/100

I never would have thought of it myself and still feel like I should have thought of it myself.

[-] chocrates@piefed.world 12 points 1 year ago

So 37 % of 38 is equivalent to (37 * 38 ) / 100 ? Which I can almost do in my head.

37 * 4 is 148 I think, so 37 * 40 is 1480. Subtract 74 we have 1406. So we have 14.06?

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You're hired

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[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

This is great. I won't remember it when I will need it.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 38 points 1 year ago

Just save the meme in the maths folder!

[-] db2@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You clearly don't have gigs of memes.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 year ago

(Maths folder is clearly for porn)

[-] TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
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[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago
[-] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[-] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 year ago

53% of 23, next question

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[-] shoo@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

My dyscalculic ass trying to remember what 50% of 6 is

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@piefed.world 17 points 1 year ago

Probably 5 tbh

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 year ago

is tree fiddy

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

I'm gonna track down all my HS math teachers and punch each and every one of them in the mouth.

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[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 40 points 1 year ago

Legitimately new knowledge for me that will literally make my work easier. Wish I could give you more than 100% of 1 upvote, OP!

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[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 35 points 1 year ago

That's because multiplication is commutative

taking a percentage of something essentially means multiplying it with a hundreath of the percentage
6% of 50 essentially means 50 * 0.06
or 50 * 6 * 0.01

and since
50 * 6 * 0.01 = 6 * 50 * 0.01
then of course
50 * 0.06 = 6 * 0.5

And we have the above

Yeah my brain just sees 5*6, and then I move the decimal. I never understood how people couldn't figure out tips when they wanted 20%.

If you live in the U.S. you do them quite often, multiply by 2. Want 10 multiply by .1... Half that and add it if you want 15. Whatever is easiest at that moment

[-] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

I prefer to keep it technically correct yet evil and confusing. 6% being a fancy way to write 0.06 or 6 * 1/100 means we can take 6 * 50 * 1/100 and simplify to 300 * 1/100 and then represent that as 300%.

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[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

6*50/100 = 50*6/100 if anyone is curious why this works.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Or, more generally:

Taking X percent of something is the same as multiplying by X/100.

X percent of Y = Y(X/100)=(YX)/100

Y percent of X = X(Y/100)=(XY)/100

(YX)/100=(XY)/100

Percentages are indeed reversible.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 year ago

6/100 * 50 = 50/100 * 6
6 * 1/100 * 50 = 50 * 1/100 * 6

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Yes, 47% of 47 is certainly much easier to determine when you look at it as 47% of 47! Genius!

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can also

Multiply one side, divide the other to get the base number to get the base number to 100.

6% of 50 == 3% of 100 == 3

5% of 20 == 1% of 100 == 1

7% of 50 == 3.5℅ of 100 == 3.5

~~14% of 200 == 7% of 100 == 7~~

Edit* as pointed out below, this one was incorrect.

14% of 200 == 28% of 100 == 28

You don't have to stop at percentage either.

25 * 16 = 100 * 4

If you're doing addition, you can add and subtract.

27 + 13 = 20 + 20

Most of the difficulty is in realizing that one number or the other can be brought up to a nice round number, making the equation simple to do in your head. And obviously, just getting to around number on one side doesn't always make it easy on the other side.

I always loved screwing with math problems to make them easier, which is weird, because overall, I don't really care for math.

I also do shit like borrowing a couple of numbers to make the equation easy and then pull them back out.

392 / 4 == (400 - 8) / 4 == (100-2) = 98

376 / 4 == (400-24)/4 =100-6=94

Of course it goes up a level when the remainder isn't evenly divisible. But I still find it's something I can handle in my head.

371 / 4 == (400-29)/4= 100-7¼ =100-7.25=92.75

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Teaching stats and using percentages now and again, it's not really that useful of a tool most of the time since you aren't usually working with an easy number like 50 (Or 10, 20, 25, etc.).

Usually what I'm doing is breaking it down into manageable parts (factors), so 6% is 5% + 1% which I can usually do in my head regardless of the number (or if 5% hard, work in increments of 1%, which I can multiply by 6).

It's a pretty common strategy to with with factors. Just surprised how many of my students don't know it!

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

Huh. Learning a fun and cool math trick was not on the list of expected outcomes for today, but I'll take it!

[-] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

commutable...

[-] serpineslair@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Sweet, thanks Panzer of the Lake!

[-] Grerkol@leminal.space 16 points 1 year ago

Most of the people explaining this still make it more complicated than it needs to be, imo.

I just think the symbol "%" algebraically means 0.01

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[-] ZoDoneRightNow@kbin.earth 14 points 1 year ago

Surprised how many people don’t know this. I suspect it is because people forget that percent literally means per 100 or /100 and the of is standing in for multiplication. So 6% of 50 is 6/100 * 50 or 6 * 50 * 1/100

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[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago
[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, now calculate 6% of 36

Edit: Replies itt make me believe that everyone on Lemmy is a chatbot

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the coolest trick since I learned about the "quick 20% tip on your tab" method. Take the total bill, move the decimal point one place over to the left, then multiply it by 2 to get 20% gratuity. I will sometimes round down on the change to make it closer to 18%. Also I only really need to do this when I'm drunk and can't maths.

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[-] deadinside91@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Today I learned, thank you wise panzer

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