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For the past few years any time there’s a public shooting, political or not, fascists immediately begin pushing a narrative that the shooter had some connection to the trans community, anarchist or communist politics, to migrant or Black communities. These are always tenuous claims but now with multiple racist lynchings following Kirk’s death, it’s time to recognize the danger of these kinds of mythmakings. They are calls to violence.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

... but now with multiple racist lynchings following Kirk’s death, ...

Source?

[–] skyler@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

There's this one in Mississippi but as stated in the article:

a preliminary report released earlier this week by the Bolivar County Coroner's Office "indicates no evidence of foul play."

Though I and others are skeptical of that initial report.

I haven't heard of any other lynchings.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

There was a white guy who found hanging a few days ago... Also in Mississippi but something like 100 miles away. I think it might have been before Kirk was shot...

Anyway, the conspiracy minded already lumped the two together without learning the details of either. As is now the custom.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And the coroner confirmed no evidence of assault, so it's not just the police or school leadership. That makes it more credible to me, but I guess we'll see.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't the whole point of a lynching that everyone knows what you did? It's supposed to be an act of intimidation.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

yeah, and we all know

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

here are just two that i've found:
Trey Reed
Cory Zukatis

as far as i know, there's no evidence that links those two murders to charlie kirk, but this is america we're talking about. two Black men, hanged, both in mississippi? that's not a coincidence. it's white terrorism.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I was aware of Trey Reed, not aware of Cory Zukatis.

Reed's death is still being investigated, police statements are very confident that it was not "foul play." Yes, I want more confirmation than just police statements, but the investigation is ongoing, and I don't expect them to say anything more publicly any time soon.

Zukatis was white.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

According to a report I read, the coroner also confirmed no evidence of assault.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I also know that the family intends to have their own independent autopsy done, and are arranging their own investigation.

I’m fine with reserving judgement until some of that comes out.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh absolutely, and we'll certainly hear about it if there is evidence of foul play. For the time being, the only reason to suspect foul play is that the kid is black and it was public. People commit suicide in public all the time, depression doesn't care about your skin color, and lynchings are generally meant to send a message (so I'd expect a much more gory killing in that case).

I'm not saying they shouldn't investigate, I'm saying there's no reason yet to assume foul play. An investigation should be done regardless to find out why he killed himself (bullying? Depression?) so we can find ways to prevent it next time.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 10 months ago

Apologies if my earlier reply sounded argumentative; I didn't mean it to be. I just meant it as "This is also going on and here's what I'm doing with the available information."

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Zukatis was white.

you’re right, my bad. that wasn’t known when his death was reported, my sources are outdated and seem to assume he was Black.

my point still 1000% stands for Trey Reed. american police is descended from slave patrols. anything they say about a Black person’s death is to be taken with extreme scrutiny.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

american police is descended from slave patrols. anything they say about a Black person’s death is to be taken with extreme scrutiny.

Unless what they say confirms your biases, right?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Read the news, I saw an article claiming the coroner found no evidence of assault. It's possible that all three are covering it up, but the simpler answer is that he killed himself.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's incredibly hypercritical to call out the right starting narratives before any evidence is released, while doing THE SAME EXACT THING!!! In your own damn post. I feel like I'm going crazy. This post gave me brain damage. I should expect this type of thing these days but good grief.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 11 months ago

The truth does matter. Patience is a virtue.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's so disgusting. The GOP and ring-wingers have such a hard-on for a post-truth world. All their lies could come straight out of Orwell's 1984: They are the party of peace, Trump wants to punish pedophiles, Charlie Kirk practiced love, Ukraine started the war, their economic policies are good for the country, they believe in small-government... It just goes on and on. While those of us that care about actual truth are just rolling our eyes as hard as we can.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

you’re part of the problem if all you do is roll your eyes. the lies of the fascists are killing people

[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Look, I get your rage but people do not owe their lives to the cause of good to merely not be seen as a "problem". They just don't.

What exactly would they have to do to no longer been seen as your enemy? And why exactly do you think they would decide to change their ways when you decide that is what they are for merely existing and not throwing themselves against the fascists to be gutted? They're just going to double down and say 'fuck you'. And they would be right to if I am completely honest.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

i cant yet find the word for it but it smells like a sort of well poisoning for headlines and search engine “optimization” - if a TON of agitprop gets out there, future searches/“research”/etc will “show” different and tailored results.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

It's totally funny and silly, because their dangerous and deliberate behavior has been on-going since day 1 and humor is a coping mechanism. Don't believe me? Ask the cancelled late night hosts.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago

This isn't even the "past few years". Knowledge Fight has been demonstrating Alex Jones' (as a mouthpiece of the far right militia sort) tendency to run cover as 'false flags' or whatever for decades.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Kirk was pushing this exact lie when the whitest boy alive ventilated his aorta.

[–] s@piefed.world 2 points 11 months ago
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Who thinks it’s funny or silly? This is straight up “freedom is slavery”, fascist propaganda orchestrated deliberately or through willful ignorance to demonize the left. Pushed by Russian and Chinese troll farms for further destabilize the US. There’s a reason Trump was left out of the Big Boy’s club meeting a few weeks ago.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago

How do you know there were racists lynchings?