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Of course no one wants to pay them... But they filter out the toxicity, and pay with their sanity, to make these spaces even enjoyable and usable for us normal people.

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[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

The risk is that you'll end up with people who seek out mod roles for the money, spin up legions of alts (more than they do now) and do all kinds of bullshit to game the system. If there's a flat payout, a top mod could inflate the team and double(+) dip to make sure they get the pie slice they want. If it's activity-based, run a handful of bots to break the rules at a time of your choosing and get whack-a-mole points.

If only certain communities qualified for paid moderation (based on activity levels, for example), this could add an incentive to sabotage other related communities and drive traffic to the one a bad actor controls. If all communities qualify, maybe we get massive fragmentation as everybody decides to try and carve out a niche for their mini-job.

That's just a start, lots of other ways it could go sideways or be manipulated. I think we're better off with people who want to keep the spam to a dull roar and prevent heated discussions from getting too out of hand because they want to provide people with usable communities instead of dangling a couple dollars in front of them.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 year ago

Once you start to go down that rabbit hole, you'll start to see that Lemmy didn't really fix any of the problems that a lot of people had with Reddit. Lemmy is just a Reddit clone where anyone can be their own spez.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately yes the problems Reddit had are still here. I was hoping there would be clear rules about what is allowed and not and those rules were enforced fairly, and people giving a chance to argue against unfair actions. Apparently that's not the case. It's like ancient greece, if you get ostracized if you are unpopular at any moment.

And according to other posts instead of expanding the reach they're busy reducing the reach of lemmy, De federating sites and otherwise cheering on kicking people off that they disagree with politically. I think that's a mistake, because there is a lot of agreement on a lot of issues even when we disagree on other issues. And it helps to not withdraw into an echo chamber with an inaccurate View of the situation like everybody did in 2024 when Kamala Harris was anointed without contacts.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

people giving a chance to argue against unfair actions. Apparently that’s not the case.

A moderator recently stepped down following what was considered unrealistic rule

That would have never happened on Reddit

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

A moderator recently stepped down following what was considered unrealistic rule

That would have never happened on Reddit

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago

I've seen that happen on Reddit in smaller subs.

[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

We see the same posts, and I can block people myself.

[-] greenbelt@lemy.lol 0 points 1 year ago

But sometimes the posts you remove yourself are quite horrible and disgusting, no?

[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I never saw any gorish thing so far, only stupid people. Do you have an example?

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This place has been spammed to death with child porn on a few occasions

[-] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Just pay for the hosting costs instead.

[-] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

We have the voting system to weigh in on what should be more visible and less visible. I want to believe it can work. If I give up on the idea that a crowd can collectively self regulate content without giving all power to a small group, then there's no point for me to be on lemmy. I can stand sometimes seeing things I don't want to see if the system generally works.

[-] Fizz 2 points 1 year ago

We should but i dont want to. I'd rather donate to the instance and they can make that choice. But unfortunately most of the money goes to running costs.

[-] greenbelt@lemy.lol 1 points 1 year ago

And the running costs are paid to some big hosting provider cooperation.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In my experience a lot of toxicity comes from those mods.

[-] koshka@koshka.ynh.fr 1 points 11 months ago

How would their pay be funded?

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