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Waltz was a smart pick, and she would have done a lot better if she hadn't muzzled him and his weird campaign.
Fuck, he should've been the presidential candidate.
He would have destroyed Trump if he had been.
People were seriously HATING on Pete during that election cycle, but this dude was going on Fox News when these other pussies wouldn't, and putting all the pundits TO SHAME.
Guy has a gift of cognizance and saying the right thing, while also destroying the idiotic logic of the opposition.
I soured on him because it seemed like he didn't have any policy he actually cared about. He started progressive then turned moderate when he couldn't compete with Bernie and Warren. Him being an incredibly good spin doctor and his dodgy consultant career just reinforced the impression of insincerity.
I'm happy to have him on the team, but I just don't trust him. His lack of personal convictions would actually kind of make him a fine veep, but not for Harris. Not because that's too many identities, just because she has her own impression of insincerity.
I don't think there was much against him for the 2024 election cycle. 2020 he was still some guy we didn't really know and he had a weird victory speech in Iowa when they had all kinds of counting issues and we didn't really know the results yet.
In between when he was transportation secretary I think we got to know him and how much he could dominate those guys.
WOW THERE WAS. Holy shit, it was prolific. The Fox News crowd they'd have no chance against this dude in a debate, and they laid into that angle SO heavily.
Even the lefty people were turning against him, for no good reason. He's a good dude, smart as fuck, a family man, but gay. As if that's a fucking drawback. Insane.
Leftists didn't like him because he used to work as a managing consultant for McKinsey & Company...which is seen as a highly corrupt PR firm. In a nutshell, they view him as an accomplished propagandist for the Capitalist class.
highly corrupt PR firm
McKinsey is a consulting firm, not a PR firm.
Leftists do not like him because he is a nihilist Politician believing in nothing but his self-advancement. Like All of our establishment politicians.
He is as fake as Kamala and biden were and there is no way he overcomes the Party Machine in 2028 to take the election as vice president or anything.
Hold on, are we even talking about the same thing here? I understood your comment to mean that the left was hating on Pete, who was never a serious contender for 2024 POTUS candidate, in that cycle. If that's correct, can you tell me what people did that would be considered "hating" on him? Not just overlooking him when the spotlight was on Biden and later Harris, but actively speaking negatively against him?
Yes, the Progressive left commentators were hating on Pete.
Seder and Emma, those Turks whoever they are, Piker...they all have wavering things to say. Very disappointing.
Didn't one of those Turks fall down the Terf rabbit hole? 'Cause if so, maybe it was never that "progressive left" to begin with. 😬
The Fox News crowd they’d have no chance against this dude in a debate
Fox owns the venue and controls the terms of the debate. Just like Kirk's phony "debates." There's no fairness when the referee is paid for by one of the participants.
He’s a good dude, smart as fuck, a family man, but gay.
Yeah, based on that, he's a great guy. But the fact that he's former McKinsey is a dealbreaker for me. I've dealt with those weasels before and would support a former Goldman Sachs person rather than one of them.
Pete is the most seemingly manufactured dem politician at the moment, and that's saying a lot considering he's competing against people like Harris. If he can't seem authentic it doesn't matter what interviews he does. I don't know him, I don't know if he is authentic, but people do not perceive him to be. Pete would be another disaster for the party.
"people"
This just illustrates how afraid Democrats are of Republicans ability to dominate the narrative. This is all about optics. And Democrats are cowards, when it comes to optics.
I don't like Buttigieg's politics (or lack thereof), but he's a fantastic speaker with a quick wit and plenty of charisma. Establishment loser Democrats (like Harris and her advisors) think that's less important than him being gay, like Obama didn't lead the Democrats to their greatest recent victory as a black man with a Muslim name.
Because they vote reliably the left does not. No politicians gives one ounce if thought to people who don't vote.
That and fascists and their allies own all the messaging outlets. Democrats could have perfect messaging and it would hardly reach anyone. So it really doesn't help that their messaging is shit.
There are more discouraged Democratic and leftish voters than there are swing voters. The fact that the DNC was so obsessed with swing voters was a sign that they were barking up the wrong tree, probably because the interests of their donors were in opposition to the interests of their voters.
Buttigieg topped her eight-person short list
Subliminal queeraging
LOL. Sorry Buttigieg. Half of American voters voted for the guy that wants to brand Transgender people as a terrorist threat.
America isn't ready to have a President who is straight, white, and not racist.
Oh bullshit, they voted for the guy who was not Joe Biden because they were grouchy about groceries and sick of neolib excuses. If RuPaul had a believable and consistent message about kicking out Biden loyalist dead weight from the administration and, say, launching a program that paired increased aid funding for local governments and schools with more aggressive investigations and prosecutions of price gouging he could have dunked on Trump.
The Democratic candidate never breached 30% approval rating the entire term and ran us the status quo in a time of anger and upheaval. You could not be right more wrong headed about this, and giving license to The Establishment to do it again.
I was a bit surprised. In every other way, Pete is the perfect mayo on white bread sandwich that I thought she wanted as a veep pick. Waltz basically had to be muzzled (while Harris campaigned alongside Liz Cheney) so he didn't let out crazy commie talk like "everyone should get medicare".
No shit.
Is anyone surprised by this?
America is comically racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic/xenophobic.
We can't have nice things because a very large segment of our society are ignorant trash humans.
Hung up on the physical characteristics of candidates and not what they actually stand for. How insulting is that to voters? If your candidate suck people will not vote for them.
I admit to being mislead on Buttigieg during the elections.
Now though? I see him as a fantastic person with lots of good ideas. I wouldn't mind at all having him as POTUS. Love hearing him speak, he just walks all over idiots without looking like a jerk.
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