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Talk inside the White House about invoking the act has ebbed and flowed since Trump took office again in January, said the five people, who include the senior administration official, two people familiar with the discussions and two people close to the White House.

But the debate inside the administration has shifted recently, from whether it makes sense to invoke the act to more deeply exploring how and when it might be invoked, both people close to the White House said.

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[-] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 154 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Insurrectionist traitor skirts punishment for treason against the United States, becomes president. Again ffs. And proceeds to invoke the Insurrection Act as a prelude to implementing martial law and becoming a full fledged dictator.

All because the Dems didn't want to "seem political". Mmmmkay.

The world is laughing at us.

[-] Balaquina@lemmy.ca 68 points 11 months ago
[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

I'm Canadian and I'm quivering in fear

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 8 points 11 months ago

Well a bit in the beginning because of the absurdity, but yeah, now it's just sad and terrifying.

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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 months ago

Because the Dems are just the same billionaires but in blue.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People need to realize that Trump is 50 years in the making. He was not the first to put "undesirables" in camps and arrest people based on racial profiling. He's not the first to give tax cuts/subsidies/bailouts to the rich while the cost of living gets progressively worse. He's not the first president to bomb countries without Congressional approval.

These trends are accelerated by Trump, but will continue after he's gone because they are systemic.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

Why don't all criminals just run for office? They can't be sentenced then, that would seem political

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Oh no no, you misunderstand.

You must also be rich and white. It's not political to lock up poor or minority political candidates, even if they aren't criminals.

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[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 91 points 11 months ago

The White House expects that any potential invocation of the act would be met with swift legal challenges and ultimately land at the Supreme Court.

So, an unsigned 6-3.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 11 months ago

Or more likely bumping it back to a lower court while only addressing one small part of the issue, while making no stay on the behavior so they can continue while it takes years to wind through the courts and eventually not matter when they have already usurped power.

[-] Pondis@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago

Civil war is looming more and more everyday. If I was American I'd be so scared and angry right now.

[-] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 53 points 11 months ago

Can confirm, I'm terrified and furious

[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 11 months ago

Yup.

Terrified, angry, disappointed, despondent, hopeless, disgusted, in disbelief.

So many fun emotions! 🩷

Note: if you are FBI and reading this: insert the next floppy labeled ‘how much of a great, capitalist loving, good Christian ~~fascist~~ ultra nationalist I am’ to learn more!

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[-] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I am apoplectic my pancake brother.

[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

Looming? It's already happening. National Guards have invaded blue cities.

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[-] Redditsux@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure Trump is going to use it by 2028 or just before it, in a prelude to declaring martial law. Right now they are trying to escalate conflicts in order to have justification. When they don't have it, I assume there will be false-flag operation to trigger one (see January 6th).

[-] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

They'll time it for 2026 if they're ready. They can't let Dems have an ounce of power to preserve democracy

[-] CallMeButtLove@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

There's absolutely no way he lives to 2028.

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[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago

Right now they are worried about the 2026 midterms. As unpopular as Trump is, they will be a bloodbath for the GOP. There is no way they wait for 2028.

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[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

This gives me such revolutionary war vibes. The "fathers of the revolution" were not revolutionist, they did not want independence from Britain, but wanted thier legal rights upheld. The monarchy feared what they might do and so sent soldiers after them labeling them as revolutionist. Thier message then became one agianst the monarchy, tensions continued to escalate and well, revolution.

There is not an insurrection, there is not armies of rebels fighting to bring down the federal govermemt.... but start a war agianst people and eventually they will stert defending themselves, then we will have a war.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.”

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[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Did anyone else see that weird interview on CNN with Steven Miller clamming up à la Mitch McConnell after he mentioned that Trump would have "plenary authority" i.e. dictatorial powers?

Unless I'm mistaken, plenary authority is granted to the president when the Insurrection Act is invoked.

So... Is this an attempt to push that through quickly now that the cat is out of the bag?

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[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 21 points 11 months ago

That movie "Civil war" was very optimistic in hindsight

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[-] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 months ago

And that's how the 2025 US Civil War will begin.

[-] DrDickHandler@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Americans won't do shit (they are currently being fucked and are cheering this on). You are delusional.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Depends on which state, hence civil war between blue and red states

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

he's scared of a damn frog.

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[-] whiwake@lemmy.cafe 11 points 11 months ago

End of the year is martial law. It ain’t gonna matter.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

When Latino people are being killed in concentration camps, congress is dissolved, and protestors are shot dead, people will say it's a distraction from the epstein files

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Tell me you want a General Strike without telling me you want a General Strike.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Insurrection act invocation = pedo king gets hanged

[-] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago
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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

The irrational behaviour of ICE and the deployment of national guards is clearly setting up to agitate and provoke the ordinary Americans into drawing first blood to justify invoking the Insurrection act. Don't fall for this my American brothers and sisters. You don't want to be the Southerners this time who attacked Fort Sumter.

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