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Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!


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Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.

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You'll be warned if you're violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.


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[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And yet they never seem to want to move to china or russia.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago

"No, I want to ruin my country!"

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They need a Holiday in Cambodia

[–] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

“Gotta say, I’ve noticed how many people are dressed in black around here…”

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume Lemmygrad isn't already Russian

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Nah, lemmygrad is 100 percent American.

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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

Denying? That's outright praise.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a factor in why I really want kbin/mbin to succeed. I also think it has the potential to be the better platform, but only time will tell.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I think both kinda suck, so I'm making my own that's completely distributed instead of federated. That way hosting costs are near zero (just need some P2P nodes and a download server) and scaling to higher user counts should be automatic if I build it right.

The problem is that building it right is hard, and I don't have a ton of time.

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[–] nuzzlerat@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

This shit is so embarrassing

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Does anyone create a social media platform without being an absolute nutjob? Tom from Myspace, maybe?

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Don’t quote me on this but I went to school with Tom and, during a dissection, nicked my finger with a scalpel. He quickly lifted my hand and proceeded to suck my finger for the rest of class. It took 3 large men to separate my digit from his mouth and 2 more to fish out my fingertip. I heard they pumped 3 pints of blood from his stomach.

I worked with Tom at a pizza hut in the 90s. Dude would always stick his dick in the pizza oven. I never noticed any crazy behavior from him, though.

[–] LegionEris@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Forever <3 CJayC, but GameFAQs didn't start as forums.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I once looked up a question about an old videogame and Google directed me to GameFAQs, to a comment made by me that answered it.

Which I think is part of their problem, right?

They're supposed to be a guide site but they became about the forum.

[–] LegionEris@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

Eh, the forum era was pretty great itself. There are many guides and FAQs and resources that wouldn't exist without the collaborative environment of the forums. They were an important part of the GameFAQs equation. The real problem is that the admin who took over after CJayC stepped down just didn't have it. He wasn't as principled as CJayC. He loaded the place up with super obtrusive ads and cared more about the letter of the law than the spirit of the community. Then reddit and the wikia/Fandom ecosystems started to replace the function of the declining GameFAQs. And that's kind of our current normal, although the flaws in it are becoming more and more apparent.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could anyone please add more context? I see some reddit user spewing some bullshit, but how do we know that's Dessalines? Genuine question...

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The irony that he started lemmy because he got a ban and then does the same shit on his own platform.

[–] Immersive_Matthew@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Power corrupts but as others have said, the joke is on them as it is decentralized and no longer theirs. They just helped start it.

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[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks. Ugh, I don't want to use lemmy anymore now....

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using their own creation against them is poetic justice though. Nothing stopping anyone from forking the backend either.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or you could just join an instance that isn't federated with lemmy.ml

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[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go to lemmygrad.ml and post about Russia or China. You will read insane ramblings about projections. Somehow the argument is always "look at this bad thing in the west, here is completely misinformed info about your country, look how good Russia/China, skip over genocides you are projecting it is happening in the West, to finish my argument Are You a Nazi?!".

Yougoslavia was created by soviets/russia. His beloved communists. I am super interested in what mind gymnastics he has to excuse that.

He could have gone with Africa or Middle East, much better example of collosal fuck ups of Ze Bad West. But that would require knowledge of history longer than 50 years.

Also crying about Poland. As a guy living in Poland, hearing stories of people that fought in WWII and people that lived in communist Poland, I am so interested in how these first hand accounts are US misinformation.

[–] TrismegistusMx@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

I was banned from Lemmygrad for statements that were critical of the authority of the USSR, and writings of their savior Karl M.

I was banned from Lemmy.world for anti-zionism. Most of the Lemmy side of the fediverse seems infested with authoritarianism that's as bad as Reddit's corporatism.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My bans from lemmy.ml have all come from literally arguing that there are a solid 150 years worth of academic ideas building on Marx and that taking Marxist orthodoxy as the exclusive socialist dogma in that context is simply ignorant.

I am starting to think that they hate revisionist socialists more than actual capitalists, because it seeks to deny them the thing they really want, which is a justification for violence and totalitarianism.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I will always advocate the people leave those platforms and go to other instances. I don't know why everybody moved over to Lemmy.world when people left reddit. I assume it must have been heavily promoted over there although I never saw it.

Been on a smaller instance has only upside, it's far less likely to go completely insane and then get itself defederated from other instances, it does not tend to get DDoS attacks as much, and you can still access all the content on those larger instances, assuming you want to.

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[–] Raffster@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Holy shit that's bad.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I use Kbin so I don't really care, but couldn't someone with at least a little bit of sanity just fork Lemmy? Or at the very least create more instances that aren't run by brainless delusional extremists...

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Recently had someone argue Palestine isn't genocide because the Arab population in Israel is going up.

Any obsession with birth rates is a red flag for brain worms, as surely as talking about skull shape.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Ah they're a tankie

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