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submitted 11 months ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/fairvote@lemmy.ca

A system that expects parties to listen, compromise and find common ground produces calmer politics and better decisions.

Canada can have that too with proportional representation. We just have to choose it.

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[-] Hegar@fedia.io 21 points 11 months ago

Proportional representation is great. In australia we use it for one house of parliament with preferential voting for the other. It allows a wider range of popular opinion to be reflected than even preferential.

But both italy and israel have proportional representation, so let's not think that it magically turns you into a scandanavian social democracy.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 12 points 11 months ago

both italy and israel have proportional representation

Italy uses a parallel system and Israel has serious problems with their society.

Iceland, Norway, Ireland and Austria use proportional representation and they’re very successful stable democracies.

[-] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 2 points 11 months ago

Technically Finland is not part of Scandinavia.

[-] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah, yes, the great democratic system of Australia, in which if you elect a government too far to the left, you get a coup. Where criticizing a politician on social media gets your home firebombed

[-] greenbit@lemmy.zip 12 points 11 months ago

Right now there's not calm politics and better decisions because the capitalists didn't need to compromise and find common ground, they just built a coalition with their fascist friends. It's also a broken system

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Iceland under proportional representation with the highest percentage of unions says otherwise.

[-] greenbit@lemmy.zip 0 points 11 months ago

I don't know how Iceland has fixed the issue I mentioned with Finland

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago

Iceland can't even save it's own language. They are a tiny tiny nation that can't be a model for influential nations that need a change in a sane direction

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 1 points 11 months ago

Ah yes let’s ignore all their successes because no country is perfect.

can't be a model for influential nations that need a change in a sane direction

Because they should model their countries on widespread corruption and stupid wars instead. Are you kidding me?

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

You could use better examples and make a better argument. Iceland is NOT a good example for your argument

just because you don't like what you are being told, doesn't mean its wrong to point out. You don't get upset about it.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

We've had minority governments before. We have one now.

Usually it's when the best things happen for us.

It's hard to use the successes of one system to promote another, though, as all of the good things we got from our minority government happened before prop rep.

[-] jackod 3 points 11 months ago

Its all well and good until Winston Peters comes along. (Known as the king maker in NZ as he has gotten do decide the outcome of multiple elections)

Definitely better than the two party system though.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago

If people want bad parties to get elected they will get them no matter the electoral system.

[-] piwakawakas 1 points 11 months ago

Truth. It's unfortunate that the 8% that voted for Act is getting way more input than the other 92% though

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