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[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 81 points 11 months ago

oh you mean a show about teenagers that takes 10 years to film isn't as fun as it used to be?

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 11 months ago

Or at least age the characters and the world properly between seasons.

Same with games, weirdly. Playing Kingdom hearts 3 and hearing him try to sound like a little kid was so awkward. Just say "Sora is an adult now, time passed" and let him sound like a human being. The dude's like 30 and stuck in a role trying to sound like he's 14 the entire time.

[-] scytale@piefed.zip 51 points 11 months ago

Like a lot of shows, this one had no business being that long and should’ve ended 2 or so seasons ago.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago

Netflix only knows two things, cancel shows immediately after release because no one heard about it due to a lack of good marketing. Or keep it going 2-3 seasons longer than it should just because it went viral at some point.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 2 points 11 months ago

See for example, Inside Job vs that awful kid's sex cartoon. Which even got a fucking spinoff.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

No idea what shown you're talking about... And not sure how to search for it without showing up in the Epstein Files 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 6 points 11 months ago

It's Big Mouth. Godawful bullshit cartoon about 11-12yo kids hitting puberty, guided by "puberty demons" that essentially force sexual behaviours onto the kids that they otherwise wouldn't do.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Big Mouth is the sex education we should have had as teenagers

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 6 points 11 months ago

Sorry but no.

I'm sure it tackles potentially important issues, but 90% of the show was crass sex jokes played on underage kids.

And while I do understand that most kids go through puberty quite early - much earlier than laws would have you think, really - but depicting them the way BM did was often very clearly minor sexualisation.

Also just FYI the internet is still bigger than the US. I grew up in Hungary and got a pretty solid sex education, starting from grade 4 through 8, addressing both the more clinical side as well as the personal side of things, without necessitating the constant depiction of 11-12yo kids (cartoon kids are still kids, sexualising them is still paedophilia, period) masturbating in various fucked up situations... So please don't start talking in the royal plural. "We" might cover the US, but outside your third world shithole, there do exist countries that aren't ass-backwards and have proper sex ed.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Two things:

  1. Not from the US either, thanks. Ironic that you assumed I was. We did get sex ed from about age 9-10, but it was not in the same breadth or depth as this show.

  2. I would interpret it as explicit rather than sexualised. They are horny teenagers, and the show doesn't shy away from how that affects thoughts, emotions, and behaviours. The characters are also really obviously cartoon caricatures in appearance, and behave in massively exaggerated fashion. It goes so far past reality that I'd say only cultural hangups or predispositions could make one interpret it as actually sexualised.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago

Have you seen the show Sex Education? I feel that one did it really well without being overly crass, and it was also a pretty good show too.

[-] ClockworkOtter@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Aye, I've seen some of that as well, but it hits different notes. I'd say it's more diverse, but whilst this makes it more inclusive especially for queer people, BM might be more generally relatable.

[-] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

I am not even sure if I did finish S2 of Big Mouth. But I kind of agree with your statement. It is definitely better than whatever they do in schools.

[-] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I think you missed the point. The demons are a personification of their inner urges. The arguments the kids have with them are a metaphor for how confusing and awkward it can feel to balance those urges with outwardly trying to appear "normal" at that age.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 3 points 11 months ago

I got the point. My issue with the show was the constant over-sexualisation of minors. Almost every single episode was "main character, 11yo boy, jerks off in most inappropriate places/in most inappropriate ways, gets caught, learns life lesson".

The issue isn't even the excessive masturbation, but the excessive need to depict it. First time funny, second time funny, third time (we're still in the first episode!) eyebrows get raised, but when he's jacking off on-screen for the 50th time and we're barely halfway through the first season, now that makes me think "hey maybe the writer's not so disguised fetish is watching kids masturbate"... and that thought isn't really without reason, is it now?

[-] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's a metaphor lol, no drawings were raped in this production.

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

the season number is fine, the last 3 just took way too damn long to produce.

[-] rozodru@pie.andmc.ca 15 points 11 months ago

or they could have just switched eras, different cast, etc. Have a season take place in the 90s and instead of it being based around D&D base it around Videogames like DOOM or Mortal Kombat that were essentially the D&D of the 90s as far as controversy goes.

Could have also done one in the early 00s and base it around the emergence of the Internet. Have the kids talk via AOL IM or ICQ or IRC or whatever.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

That's what the spin off series is gonna be. Netflix is gonna try to milk this thing until it's star wars.

[-] GammaGames@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago

Season 1 was pretty much perfect, I think 3 would’ve been a good run but they look so much older lol

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 11 months ago

And pushing daisies only got 2 seasons !!?😭

[-] KingOfTheCouch@lemmy.ca 33 points 11 months ago

Haha, what a silly post. There was only ever one season of Stranger Things.

Kids and their fan fiction these days.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 3 points 11 months ago

Hey now season 2 had Samwise!

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The four episodes that comprise Volume 1 unsurprisingly walk back the Season 4 cliffhanger. Hawkins, Indiana, has not turned into a hellscape of Demogorgons and slimy vines. Instead, the town has been put under military quarantine, occupied by the same foolhardy industrial complex that started this whole mess in the first place. With Matthew Modine’s Dr. Brenner now dead, the deep state’s latest ambassador is Dr. Kay (Linda Hamilton), a scientist and officer who commands an entire base constructed within the Upside Down. Uncle Sam has stapled over most of Vecna’s rifts with crude metal plates, but left just enough open to use for his own ends.

...

As it hurtles toward a final showdown with Vecna, “Stranger Things” is resetting the clock rather than riding its forward momentum.

That's disappointing to hear. I was expecting a proper conclusion after season 4 ending, hoping it fully embraces the consequences of Vecna invading the human world.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

It's not done yet, more than half of this odd formatted season is coming.

The "conclusions" this article draws seem to have been made by AI or someone who read the blurbs of each episode

[-] thejoker954@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

in my opinion they've "Disney-fied" the upside down.

And while I dont want a mil-sim (military simulation) the military response is an absolute joke. By this point they know bullets don't work but thats pretty much all they use. They also build a base directly on top of the rift - like come on at least build it off to the side.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Next parts are coming out on Christmas and new years so only a month to wait

[-] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago

What season had the overly cringe Never Ending Story scene where the two kids sing the song to each other over shortwave radio? I think that was when it stopped being good IMO. Definitely not a fan of the last season. Though Max is good and the Running Up That Hill stuff was pretty cool. She was carrying the show because we kinda stopped caring about Eleven when she went from cool crazy kid to cute teenage girl. I think they kinda lost the plot there, trying to doll her up too much.

[-] LadyButterfly@reddthat.com 4 points 11 months ago

I loved that sequence! I sometimes watch it on YouTube and it always amuses me

[-] frizzo@piefed.social 8 points 11 months ago

I wish the "media" would put this much effort into actual reality, rather a show about some nerds in a basement. I hope the show ends with it all being imagined and you all lose your minds.

[-] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 2 points 11 months ago

i would stop watching all media if that happened. i'd have to walk into the sea. XD

[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago

Haven’t read this article. But been saying it. The appeal, to me, was nerdy middle school/high school kids in the 80s kicking butt. And the fantasy/mystery/dnd of it. It was the way I could relate to the kids in a nostalgic way. Now it’s some early 20 “kids” in the 10th grade. Just forget that it’s some high school kids and watch it for what it is.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It went like this to me;

-season 1: nerdy, dnd, 80's, cool little corny/campy coming off age story.

-season 2: nerdy, 80's, cool little corny/campy coming off age story.

-season 3: cool little corny/campy coming off age story.

Season 4: the only thing remotely first season was the name of the club.

The big bads are loosely DND influenced and in name only. I rewatched the first two seasons a few times. But I got all I wanted out of the previous two on the first watch. And I'm not saying they're bad, they're just losing me. At least Jack Black isn't in it I guess.

[-] etherphon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Well, like many I really liked the first season, and I still love the overall mood and tone of the show and how they sneak in 80s stuff, like they dug deep for the Boppers reference I totally forgot about those things, but it just feels like the same story over and over. I wish they had made it an anthology show like True Detective or even X-Files.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Based on what? people not having 5 hours on a Wednesday night to bing watch the part of season 5 that was released?

[-] JoeTheSane@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I understand the frustration, but I have to finish it. How else will I ever find out if Nancy and Jonathan get married and spawn a brood of moon-faced perverts?

[-] Gomiboy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I find it increasingly tedious to commit time watching prestige, big budget TV shows and this one is no different. The total runtime of the four episodes which have dropped so far amounts to 283 minutes, which is almost 5 hours devoted to the first half of this final season. The average runtime so far is 70 minutes per episode. It's staggering really.

I mean sure if you're a die-hard fan and want to see a bunch of twenty-somethings masquerading as teens finally wrap up this story then it won't be a marathon for you. But for the rest of us, if you're anything like me, I am left thinking this story could have naturally ended in season 4 and the show runners are dragging it out because it is now an established IP and Netflix wants to maximise user engagement and by extension profit from your time as much as possible.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 11 months ago

I find it increasingly tedious to commit time watching prestige, big budget TV shows and this one is no different. The total runtime of the four episodes which have dropped so far amounts to 283 minutes, which is almost 5 hours devoted to the first half of this final season. The average runtime so far is 70 minutes per episode. It’s staggering really.

I haven't watched Stranger Things, but most prestige shows are by far shorter than more regular shows - except the runtime of episodes themselves.

[-] Gomiboy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I think there is some truth in that and this final run of Stranger Things may be an exception but, I am watching the latest season of the The Morning Show and so far episodes are approximately 50 minutes in length.

The days of TV episodes averaging between 30-40 minutes in length are over.

[-] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 11 months ago

I think there is some truth in that and this final run of Stranger Things may be an exception but, I am watching the latest season of the The Morning Show and so far episodes are approximately 50 minutes in length.

Sure. But I suppose I mean historical TV shows tend to be between 40-50 minutes where as 'prestige' is usually 50-60 minutes in length.

But the historical TV shows tend to be 20+ episodes a season.

[-] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

The one black kid has a beard and looks 30. Half he kids are adults and married irl, David harbour is a bully, and the BTS drama is wild. the show has been a joke for years.

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