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submitted 9 months ago by xiao@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Assuming that in the future most jobs will be replaced by artificial intelligence or other advanced systems, is it (in your opinion) highly likely that the powerful figures of this world would want to commit genocide against a large part of the world's population, or would we be dealing with true philanthropists?

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[-] Acamon@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

You don't need to actively kill people off unless you're in a rush. Just let climate change render parts of the world uninhabitable while enforcing strict border control, and make sure your population don't have access to decent healthcare and vaccinations so that prevmtable diseases reduce the local numbers.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The chances of a true philanthropist beating out the psychopaths currently at the top of the chain, is basically nil. They will always fight dirtier.

You need to ensure a government can exert power over the largest organisations in its country. If that ever becomes an issue, the organisation might start behaving as a de facto government of its own and start treating the actual government as a vassal.

Basically we need to kick corporatist politicians out of our governments before they finish rolling out the red carpet for the end of democracy, and start chopping up and/or nationalising these proto-megacorps. If only a few control the tools that put us all out of work, we're not getting anything close to utopia.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 12 points 9 months ago

Historically, no one has ever needed a reason to start a genocide.

[-] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago

We have eliminated a lot of jobs, and we do have large unemployment, and we do have a lot of bullshit jobs where nothing really gets done.

WW3 is also looking disturbingly feasible.

I'm not sure its a coincidence.

[-] SelfHigh5@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I yearn for a bullshit job where nothing really gets done. I’m just so tired.

[-] autriyo@feddit.org 2 points 9 months ago

The bullshit jobs are tiring too though, after all you have to deal with a lot of bullshit.

[-] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago

Whatever would make life easier/more pleasant for the trillionaires is what will happen.

That said, population is declining in the developed world anyway. People aren't having kids, governments won't need to do anything.

[-] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago

It's an assumption that many people will be unemployed and unemployable in other functions. So far, every big change (like the Industrial Revolution or the advent of computers in the workplace) have lead to temporary displacements, and the longer ago it happened violent side effects. But in the big picture, we have found ways to put the human resource back into the machine. Accountants were supposed to go extinct with the arrival of Microsoft Excel. But their numbers have increased because they can do more useful things with their time than doing the math. The assumption may be more fear mongering. (And it's too early to tell if you ask me.)

So I don't think they will kill us off just yet because it isn't entirely clear that we're not needed. It's also possible that so-called AI frees up people and resources that can be channeled into what are chronically underfunded professions today, like teaching or medical care. We have a tendency to think in Matrix or 1984 terms of the future when more positive outcomes exist.

[-] Soupbreaker@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Whoa, you're a friend of DeSoto? I heard that guy's a real pleasure to work for.

[-] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

Best boss I ever had.

[-] buttholechris@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

Yes. Eiliminating SNAP and healthcare benefits for the lower caste populations is a good slow first step.

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 8 months ago

I'd prefer you lost your internet privileges instead.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 months ago

Removing "Useless eaters" was part of Hitlers final solution.

MAGA removing every social net is the plan for this

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

If we’re talking about the US, then yes. 100%. It’s already underway.

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 9 months ago

well given people and positions of power and genocide and the way they talk. I think the possibility is not a remote one.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago

Coming soon: Soylent Green.

[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but wasn't that something that german eugenics guy said in the Epstien emails? About how making it too expensive to have children was a "kinder" form of population control?

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