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[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 159 points 9 months ago

I think this kind of mentality partially absolves the US of its own homegrown horrors and ignores the imperialist and fascist parts of our own society that have existed here since it's creation.

[-] minnow@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago

Right. Like, yeah, they might be Russian agents but they're WILLING agents. If Russia is asking them to do things, they're things these traitors already wanted to do.

Whether they're Russian agents isn't exactly irrelevant, but it also doesn't really change anything. Russia night have sped up the process, but we've been on this road literally since the inception of our country.

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 9 months ago

It's wild to me how much of a boogeyman Russia has been made into in lib circles.

There are probably a dozen or so countries who actively root for and foment political discontent in the US, but for some reason any American that falls into alignment with some loose formation of anti-democraric positions qualifies specifically as a Russian agent

Libs do not realize just how xenophobic their own politics have become. Just because you think your fears are justified doesn't mean they arent irrational

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[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 74 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Stop trying to blame Russia, blame capitalism. I hate putin as much as you (probably more because I can't live in my own house, or visit my parents, all because of him), but it is your ruling class at fault and not some russian influence. Whatever putin could do is inconsequential compared to the wealth and influence the 20 richest people of your empire.

Your billionaires have decided that trump and fascism is the most beneficial choice for them at present, it is truly that simple. What you are witnessing right now is a natural outcome of a capitalist system, as intended by your racist proto-nazi founding fathers.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

Whatever putin could do is inconsequential compared to the wealth and influence the 20 richest people of your empire.

Are you suggesting that $20k in Facebook ads didn't decide the result of a $4B election season?

Sounds like Russian propaganda to me

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[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 67 points 9 months ago

You cant just blame "those pesky, conniving foreigners" when your country descends into fascism after 2 centuries of racism, genocide, and withering away of social safety nets.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 50 points 9 months ago

Stop calling them Conservatives. They're Russians

Just absolutely peak liberal. You cannot accept that American conservatives are bad. You need them to be Evil Foreigners.

This is how you end up side by side with Liz Cheney, pockets stuffed full of O&G money, telling your base voters to stfu about climate change if they want to win the next election.

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[-] slothrop@lemmy.ca 45 points 9 months ago

It's a class stuggle.
It's that simple.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 30 points 9 months ago

The purity of our blessed country and it's founding fathers must never be impungned. All corruption originates with those filthy foreigners, who are ontologically evil, and to suggest otherwise is proof of heresy, of being corrupted by the foreigner.

Washington protects.

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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 30 points 9 months ago

Holding the bedrock of a nations political power to just being an ethnic group is a pretty wild take, albeit unsurprising.

Like a zoo of a take.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

The Overton window of mainstream US politics has gotten so narrow and so rightwing the major dispute seems to only be about which foreigners are to blame for everything wrong.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 9 months ago

Anti-fascism has absolutely nothing to gain from dumb lib conspiracies.

[-] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 29 points 9 months ago

Russia has got nothing to do with it. It's all on the people of USA. No one else

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago

It's becoming clear there is only one oligarch ruling party in the US, so they're looking for something new to blame since they can just pass the ball from red to blue anymore.

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 26 points 9 months ago

It's a marvelous thing to watch American leaders just blaming others about the things they do wrong. Didn't you hear? Venezuela robbed their Venezuelan oil. They can't be the baddies, never ever, forever.

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Even worse is when politicians blame the citizens. Working two jobs and still struggling? Your fault. Marriages falling apart? Blame gay marriage. Can't afford an $500,000 house? Tough luck. Can't afford heath care? You don't deserve it. Mental hospitals closed? Name a business that sucks and blame their customers. Only politicians get away with it

[-] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

This is dumb as shit, completely pointless.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Might help if centrists could stop calling people to their left fascists and russians for disliking genocide.

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[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 21 points 9 months ago

Quit blaming Russia for the US doing the same shit it's always been doing, the only difference is who we're doing it to, the people saying this sort of inane shit only care because it's affecting them

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[-] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 months ago

The fuck, Russian doesn't control shit, they can't even control their own troops half the time.

Trump's just a shithead who will do almost anything when praised by powerful people, especially if given a shiny object.

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[-] FE80@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Why do Republicans have to be secretly in the thrall of the Russians to be evil? Can't the Republicans just be scum based on their own will?

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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 9 months ago

Or alternatively you can just call them reactionaries, as bad as Russia is they're a drop in the bucket compared to the American capitalist class

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[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Despite the fact that Russia has been 0% red for the past 35 years or so.

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[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

None of this is simple, and anyone blaming a single source or calling it simple is trying to mislead.

[-] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 12 points 9 months ago

When You call the other side crazy so you don't n have to debate them....and just keep loosing elections and supporters 🥱

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 months ago

This is pure treasonous disinformation meant to subjugate Americans to false fears, and steal their prosperity.

Zionist supremacism not Russia is responsible for our political corruption. That one or 2 Russian click farms in 2016 amplified GOP message, did not change election outcome, and pales in comparison to propaganda and corruption CIA runs in foreign countries to create anti-Russia puppets.

Anyone pathethic, stupid, and demonically hateful to think future prosperity requires perpetuating and intensifying war on Russia is being gaslight and bodysnatched to support the most Zionist, Neocon, Warmonger the DNC will oppress you with.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 10 points 9 months ago

Oh no, this is what conservatives are.

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[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've seen some YouTubers say that FAFO isn't going to get them to start voting Democrat.

I honestly don't think they ever will ... so at the very least I think they should feel the pain that they've caused. I don't give a fuck if I can change their minds at this point. I don't know how to reprogram a cult member and it's galling to put that on me anyways.

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