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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by IWW4@lemmy.zip to c/television@piefed.social

I just started this show. I haven’t really liked any Star Trek show since STNG, so I kept putting this one off. Mostly because Picard hasn’t been well received

I am halfway through season one. I am not sure what to say about this show. I don’t love it. Parts have a lot of promise and parts are just so clumsy. It has a serial story, but it is clear that whoever is writing it is still thinking episodically. Things are really sped up and the writers have an obsession with illustrating backstory in the worse way. So many scenes with laborious dialogue.

The show is also a lot more realistic view of the federation than previous Trek products I have seen.

Overall there is enough goodness to keep me watching and again, I don’t love it.

UPDATE

I bailed out of S1 around E8 it was just terrible. On advice from the thread I skipped to S3 and lasted three episodes. It was terrible. One the comically terrible parts is how all the 70 year olds had 20 something kids.

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[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 24 points 8 months ago

Season 3 is better thanks to cashing in on nostalgia

[-] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's more fun, certainly.

But I wouldn't say it was any better - if that refers to quality.

It was my favourite season of the three, but pulling out the big nostalgia guns made it even more obvious they were really getting desperate.

They had to invent such a contrived and ridiculous plot, all to justify why that nostalgia trip could happen, or make the faintest bit of sense.

[-] plateee@piefed.social 16 points 8 months ago

I haven't really liked any Star Trek show since STNG.

May I recommend Star Trek Lower Decks?

Yes, it's animated, but because it's animated, there's more alien lifeform representation than in the live action shows. It's really well written, has character development over the series, and does fan service really, really well.

It also explores some of the less seen (but obviously necessary) aspects of the Federation - what happens after first contact, what do the non-officers do day-to-day, etc.

I started it after Picard, and although I liked Picard (for all the faults highlighted by the OP and other commenters), I fell in love with Lower Decks.

[-] WaffleStomper@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I loved Lower Decks. I grew up watching TNG and reruns of TOS. Plus all the movies. Recently watched the entirety of DS9. Lower Decks had a lot of callbacks that were hilarious.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Have you watched Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks? As someone who also hadn't gotten into Star Trek since Next Generation, those were exactly what I wanted.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

I have seen SNW. It is 6/10 for me.

[-] krimson@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I liked it until they started doing a fucking musical.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

I should have said I have only seen the first season. It has really corny parts

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 8 months ago

It gets worse every season. With the Ellisons owning it Star Trek has nothing to say. Just pretty CGI and action plots. The soul of it isn't there in SNW.

[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The deal didn't close until about August. You can blame the upcoming stuff on the Ellisons, but SNW seasons 1-3 have nothing to do with them.

[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 0 points 8 months ago

Well TNG will always be there. Its honestly been well before Enterprise that Star Trek lost it. The minute everyone needed a command promotion at the end of TNG is when it began.

[-] Thorry@feddit.org 11 points 8 months ago

One of the big issues with Picard is that the original script was with the android being the main character and Picard not even be part of it. Then the studio wanted a big name attached to it, because they didn't believe it would do well to revive the Star Trek franchise on its own. So they got Patrick Stewart involved, made Picard the main character and basically mangled the show. I think Stewart also wanted a lot of changes to the show and the studio involvement was huge as well. This made the end result pretty terrible tbh.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago

Ahh that fits.

[-] GTKashi@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Season 1 is awful. Season 2 is awful. Both have the occasional high point that is pretty much entirely unearned.

Season three is a clunky, but well meaning apology for the previous two seasons and all of the TNG movies. It’s fan service, yes, but compared to seasons 1 and 2 it is Shakespeare. Actors get to act. Some actual drama between characters that never got a real chance to have those scenes before. Like “All Good Things” it’s not perfect, but it’s good enough to be a satisfying ending.

[-] norambna@programming.dev 5 points 8 months ago

For me season 1 was not awful. It was not good, but it was not awful. Now season 2... was absolutely terrible, the worse we have seen in all the Star Trek universe. Season 3 was better than 2, but it was still not good.

I'd say avoid this show!

I see Star Trek Lower Decks has been mentioned. That is truly a great show!

[-] Archer@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

The most intensely frustrating thing about Picard is that it was so bad it tried to retroactively drag TNG down into the abyss with it

[-] zikzak025@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Mostly I didn't like the first season because it felt like a weird retread of the premise of Mass Effect. Never bothered watching anything beyond that.

Trying too hard to be gritty and serious, when the somewhat campier aspects of TNG are what originally sold me on that series.

TNG had its share of serious and deep plots, but the less serious, self-aware episodes are what give it character.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

By "realistic" do you mean "grimdark"? Cause that's the only way I usually see it used when in reference to shows showing idealistic things suddenly turning dark and melodramatic.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago
[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

So not realistic at all, just more likely to be shocking and "the bad guy".

And thus not really typical of Star Trek (pre-Abrams)

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

the most disappointed i've been in any trek product. really hoped they'd do TNG justice but it's just shitty nutrek like everything else.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I liked seasons 1 and 2 more than most, and I still only kind of liked them. I would definitely recommend that all but the most die hard fans just skip to season 3. No previous new characters except Raffi are even featured in it. (Laris doesn't count, it was just a quick scene at the beginning).

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Picard had too much nonsensical decision making for me to ever get into it. Its not the worst trek, but I think its down there.

Personal ranking: DS9 > TNG > LD > VOY = TOS = Ent > Picard > SNW (haven't finished season 3) > Disco (never watched season 5).

I haven't seen Prodigy and it's more than 30 years since I watched any TAS.

[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

I have issues with the writing and I am only halfway through S1, so maybe it comes later?

I really havent seen any bad character decisions yet.

[-] GooseGang@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

It felt esoterically nostalgic. I would have liked it to have more depth of side characters or cheesy moral lessons as in TNG, Voyager and DS9

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