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submitted 7 months ago by trager_bombs@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world

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Stop accusing people of "spewing hate" when they simply care about people more than you do, folks.

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[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

But. Are you saying fuck Israel because they refer to Palestinians as animals and uneducated - and slaughtered them.

Or are you saying fuck Israel because they claim to be educated and civilised, but the only way that they could deduce a solution was to slaughter them.

Or are you saying fuck Israel because they assumed both but instead of trying to educate what they perceived as uneducated animals with their educated knowledge, they decided to slaughter them.

I mean.. it's very possible (and seems like) Israel is just run by stone age fucks and can only see one solution.

Or, finally, are you saying fuck Israel because they didn't care anyway, and just decided to slaughter tens of thousands of innocent people?

[–] trager_bombs@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm saying fuck Israel because I've spent my entire life being propagandized that being a good person means telling horrible people to kick rocks. Mass slaughter is fucking stupid, especially justified through faith or skin tone.

I'm saying fuck Israel because my neighbors and family struggle every day to get by while my government keeps sacrificing ungodly amounts of money, weapons, and lives to keep a tiny piece of desert happy and healthy.

I am sure I could keep going, but like ... There's so many reasons to say fuck Israel that assuming it's based out of a place of hate at this stage is madness.

[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago

It's more likely that it's based out of Israels decision to be cunts or savages.

I don't think we need to argue or even discuss which one.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's fine, Fuck Israel and especially fuck Netanyahu, but some people will say "Fuck Israel" and then say "Fuck DNC" but also "Praise Xi Jinping" or even "Fuck Zelenski" or some wack ass shit like that.

It's unfortunate that Tankies would seize the means of producing shame for shit they enabled when their leaders vetoed the only ceasefire agreements the west would agree to, when their leaders promoted Republicans backing the single state genocide solution, and when their leaders funded and armed Iran with which to fund and arm Hamas reigniting the war in the first place.

So what I'm trying to say is there are exceptions to every rule.

[+] trager_bombs@lemmy.world -7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Zelenski has been talking about wanting to model Ukraine after Israel so... I do kinda say fuck him, unfortunately. Hate it for Ukraine as a whole, war sucks, but Zelenski keeps digging.

Xi, I genuinely can't manage to sort through the propaganda enough to get a read on.

But yeah, fuck the DNC and their consistent demands for American votes while consistently funding genocides and domestic unrest. Even through last year, they were still voting to fund IOF horseshit and the party leaders refuse to condemn ICE so... I'm not sure why tankies are expected to keep their mouths shut about that?

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Exhibit A, everybody.

Waiting to get a better read on a militaristic expansionist dictator is a waste of time, mate.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hey OP, quick vibecheck.

Why is there currently a war in Ukraine?

[+] trager_bombs@lemmy.world -7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Far as I've been able to discern (I'm still learning geo stuff) it appears to be a patsy war between NATO and Russia. The more I see outside of US media about it, the more it's coming across as setting up Ukraine as the eastern European Israel (with even Zelenski talking about wanting to model after Israel).

This would mirror a similar situation with the US holding on to Taiwan so severely to maintain a hold in East Asia. 💀

That said, this is all just my conjecture off of the media I come across. I'm not an expert, just a loud douche.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Just preserving your reply here. It's very enlightening.

Far as I've been able to discern (I'm still learning geo stuff) it appears to be a patsy war between NATO and Russia. The more I see outside of US media about it, the more it's coming across as setting up Ukraine as the eastern European Israel (with even Zelenski talking about wanting to model after Israel).

This would mirror a similar situation with the US holding on to Taiwan so severely to maintain a hold in East Asia. 💀

That said, this is all just my conjecture off of the media I come across. I'm not an expert, just a loud douche.

[–] trager_bombs@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's fine, I don't intend to back track as I learn new things. That's part of why I'm railing on holding leaders accountable and not just happily clapping for DNC choices.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh I'm sorry. I didn't mean it was enlightening as to how things are in reality. It's enlightening as to your position. You're literally repeating Russian propaganda talking points that couldn't be further from the truth.

On the remote chance that you're not doing that on purpose, you should stop reading RT, as all Russian media is state media from an authoritarian regime.

[–] trager_bombs@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

The frustrating thing about these interrogations (exaggeration) into my perspective on Zelenski/Ukraine and Xi/China is that I've never claimed any expertise on either of those areas.

All of my posting and ranting has been directed domestically and at Israel - because those are the two that I'm reasonably certain I can be mad at without showing my ass.

I'm fully aware I have more to learn, and I'm not even upset when wrong, just when I catch strays instead of a discussion. The ol' no one is immune to propaganda rule does not mention me as an exemption.

I don't even think I'm all that inflammatory about my criticisms of the DNC when my criticisms of the GOP involve tribunals and guillotines. 🙃