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[–] thomasdouwes@sopuli.xyz 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Computer plays video games
I want to make video games
Learn to program
Never even make video games

[–] Lnrdrople@suppo.fi 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah... Decades later I still sometimes think about making video games, but never have any time to do more than write down a quick idea. Maybe one day...

[–] HIMISOCOOL 5 points 1 year ago

Rinse and repeat with all engines on the market

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Lol, that was me. Took a course on game development and the professor said "I don't advise a career in game development unless you can deal with crunch". Now I treat HTTP requests in python and question my life choices.

[–] starbreaker@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I had enough common sense as an 18-year-old to know that writers and musicians need day jobs, but not enough to realize that I'd have been better off learning a unionized trade and becoming an electrician or a plumber. Since I didn't have the looks or the personality to make it as a rent boy in Manhattan, I rent out my brain instead of my ass as a programmer.

There's no inspiration or passion involved. I'm in it for the money. It's thankless work best outsourced, and I laugh at articles saying that AI is going to take my job. An AI smart enough to take my job would be too smart to want it.

[–] coloredgrayscale@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How was the process of learning it / getting good for you, as it can be really frustrating in the beginning?

[–] starbreaker@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I wasn't autistic before I learned to code, I sure as hell became autistic in the process. Learning to think like a computer in order to program one is a dehumanizing process. Kind of explains why so many techies are fucked in the head.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fucked in the head and believe that we can solve every problem with tech.

[–] starbreaker@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The example of the guillotine ought to be all anybody needs to understand that social and political problems are not amenable to technological solutions.

[–] PeeGee@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ow - too accurate.

[–] sour@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sheepishly@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

yeah pretty much

[–] PepeLivesMatter@lemmy.today 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was good at math and bad with people.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I'm neither good at math, nor good with people...

[–] leftzero@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I don't suck as much at programming as I suck at everything else.

[–] autokludge@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I was apparently enraptured by PCs as a child, didn't really do much apart from games / emulators until secondary school. At ~14 I was offered an extracurricular class to learn how to program TI-82 calculators. This really clicked for me, ended up pursuing a heavy math / comp sci / stem curriculum. I get to automate away tedious / boring tasks by working on a mentally stimulating puzzle. The rush on getting it working the first time is 👌

[–] 314xel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The rush on getting it working the first time is 👌

That's so true, but what I think keeps us hooked in the game are the failures, the figuring out the "why"s.

[–] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I do test automation, getting a particularly difficult test scenario working in automation is 🤌

[–] NikkiNikkiNikki@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

Wanted to make games as a kid, got way way waayy too into it, now I just make my own programs when I need to

[–] 314xel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reading as a kid about virus analysis and how they work in a short column in a... newspaper. Yeah, they even listed full Windows Registry paths. Didn't know what HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE was, didn't own a computer, only knew about some DOS commands, but I knew I wanted to be able to do that job and decompile stuff (whatever that ment) and see how it worked. Just like dismantling (and ultimately destroying) toys to see the inner workings.

After finally owning a computer and being bored by the few games I had on Windows 95, being limited to Notepad, Internet Explorer (without an internet connection yet; or was it Netscape Navigator?) and Paint (in which I sucked, lacking any artistic talent), when I learned that I can just type stuff in Notepad, I borrowed a book about "programming" in HTML. Then Pascal, the pinnacle being a simple XOR encryption program, with a god damn white on blue "windows" interface with buttons (a la Midnight Commander). Writing TRIVIA "scripts" for mIRC channels made us gods. Then Delphi naturally followed, making my own tool to track how many hours I've spent on dialup a month (yes, internet was very expensive) while listening to 80's music on Winamp. Nothing was more interesting than that. Then got a job and out of a sudden started making my own money by writing Delphi code. Up until then I wasn't really aware that my passion would also bring food on the table. The rest is history.

Programming in those days felt unreal. Felt like The Matrix. I knew that what I want to do for the rest of my life is look at text on a screen, hit CTRL+F9, see a crash, set some breakpoints, and ponder around the room or while taking a piss about what went wrong and how to solve it. I'm no Einstein, but I understood why science people dedicate their lifes to their work and disregard completely their social life.

[–] jadero@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

I always read a lot. 100+ books a year, plus magazines. Then I got a job in the boonies and got home only on weekends. All of a sudden I was reading a book a day. Even with the library and used book stores, that was financially ruinous for our young family. So I bought a VIC-20, a used b&w tv, and the programmer's reference manual to take out to the work camps.. The savings on books paid for the system in just a few months.

One thing led to another and a decade or so later I made the transition from hobby to career. Now I'm retired and looking to reboot as a hobbyist.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Making games, which, I've come to discover, is basically the Santa Claus of programming because most professional developers that I know started for the same reason and absolute do not program or develop games.

[–] SeriousBug@infosec.pub 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. I wanted to make video games... until I found out how terrible the working conditions and pay are.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Lol this is exactly it

[–] SrTobi@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Same here. Always wanted to do cool games. But wanted to have an even cooler scripting language for the game. At some point programming languages became more interesting. Now working in ide development :D never finished a game

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I always thought engineering is cool but time consuming. Programming was picked up along the way and now the money is too good to do anything else. Wish I could work on devices again.

[–] calypsopub@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Was majoring in accounting and had to take a CS101 class programming in Pascal. Changed majors immediately, thinking "Where has this been all my life?" This predates PCs, although I did have a Commodore 64 to practice coding on BASIC after that.

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm really fucking good at it and since I'm in a third world country software developers make 10x as much as the average person here (while still making 10x less than someone in the US)

[–] m105@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

I don't know...I think I always had a passion for it. I always liked tech stuff and liked to play the computers. Built my first site at 13, after that another and another and so on...now I have 10 years of software engineering, worked with multiple technologies and frameworks along the way. Nowadays I work as a software architect at one of the largest companies in my country.

December 8th, 2009 - Motorola Droid successfully rooted ... [granting] root access on the phone using a terminal emulator. This is how I learned bash which inevitably pushed me into pursuing proper Computer Science.

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[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Always been a bit of an introvert and loner. Got fascinated by computers and games and wanted to know how they worked in detail. Had good grades so got into a 5 year Computer Science and Engineering program, landed a job before I even graduated.

[–] Graphy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I used to make bots in RuneScape. If I’m being honest post high school I had to pick something and just said fuck it CS degree

[–] sndrtj@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

I got into programming via, I kid you not, Second Life.

Wanted to animate some objects with the built-in scripting language. Turned out I was pretty good at it.

Fast forward 15 years and I'm having a decade-long career in software.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was a natural progression for me, over the years I've gotten my fingers into a lot of pies across tech from running servers to REing to PCB design/Making and programming serves as a bit of glue to interconnect it all and then I fell in love with it.

But ONLY as a hobby, I know me and if I had to do it as a career day in and day out I'm not going to want to do it recreationally and the love and passion will eventually burn out. Although I do find areas to sprinkle it in in my career to make my job easier.

[–] donio@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

After typing in a bunch of programs on my 1KB Sinclair ZX-81 I wanted to understand how they worked and wanted to make some of my own.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Pretty much from the same era. Either you learned how to teach your computer to do stuff or you were stuck with an expensive paperweight.

[–] UtMan1988@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago
[–] jeebus@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Back in the mid to late nineties I used America Online and the warez chat rooms. I found out Visual Basic was used to create bot programs and now I work for a big tech company.

[–] silas@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago
[–] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

It clicked at a young age, I've been good at it and enjoyed it since I was like 13. Found out it was profitable a little later and yeah, that's all it really took. Just the path of least resistance to be honest.

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't really remember. I guess I saw some cool stuff done with programming and wanted to make those things toom So I learnt Python.

[–] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Such cool stories. You guys rock... Or are lying lol. I was once working in electronics job. I was running a circuit under test for which we had access to the source code for it. I was amazed by how source code turned into action. Once they out-source my job, I went to get CS degree. And... Now I work what is basically T1 IT