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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.

The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)

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[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 11 points 6 months ago

I was trying to see if Paul Graham was in the Epstein files (seems to mostly be due to Twitter spam) but then I found this email from 2016 with Scooter's powerword:

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00824072.pdf

The context is that AI guy Joscha Bach wants to "have a brainstorm" on "forbidden research" (you best believe IQ is in there, but also climate change prepping which in phrased in a particularly omenous fashion) and there's a long list of people at the end. Besides slatescott it includes

Epstein Himself Paul Graham Max Teigmark Stephen Wolfram Stephen Pinker (ofc) Reid Hoffman

It's unclear if this brainstorm ever happened or if Astral Scottdex was even contacted. The next email features Epstein chastising Joscha Bach for not shutting up in a discussion with Noam Chomsky and Bach's last email is just groveling and trying to smooth over the relationship with his benefactor.

I think this is (at least a little bit) interesting because it's back in 2016, a year before 'intellectual dark web' was coined and that whole ball got rolling.

Has Scooter addressed his presence in the files the way other-scott did?

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

the way other-scott did?

Did he?

Now I'm wondering if 'third Scott' (Guess he didn't fake it, his dream of being hunted in the streets as a conservative didn't come to pass) was in the files. Would be very amusing if it turned out Epstein was one of the people hypnotized.

‘intellectual dark web’

But this was after people coined ‘Dark Enlightenment’, which I don't know when it started, but it was mapped in 2013. Wonder how much the NRx comes up. But for my sanity I'm not going to do any digging.

(people already discovered some unreadable pdf files are unreadable because they are actually renamed mp4s (and other file types), fucking ~~amateurs~~ podcasters. And no way im going to look into that).

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[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago

Mathematicians: [challenge promptfondlers with a fair set of problems]

OpenAI: [breaks the test protocol, whines]

We will aim to publish more information next week, but as I noted above, this was a quite chaotic sprint (you caught us by surprise! please give us time to prepare next time!). We will not be able to gather all the transcripts as they are quite scattered.

Some of the prompts included guidance to iterate on its previous work...

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago

First of all, like, if you can't keep track of your transcripts, just how fucking incompetent are you?

Second, I would actually be interested in a problem set where the problems can't be solved. What happens if one prompts the chatbot with a conjecture that is plausible but false? We cannot understand the effect of this technology upon mathematics without understanding the cost of mathematical sycophancy. (I will not be running that test myself, on the "meth: not even once" principle.)

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[-] lagrangeinterpolator@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I thought I was sticking my neck out when I said that OpenAI was faking their claims in math, such as with the whole International Math Olympiad gold medal incident. Even many of my peers in my field are starting to become receptive to all of these rumors about how AI is supposedly getting good at math. Sometimes I wonder if I'm going crazy and sticking my head in the sand.

All I can really do is to remember that AI developers are bad faith (and scientists are actually bad at dealing with bad faith tactics like flooding the zone with bullshit). If the boy has cried wolf 10 times already, pardon me if I just ignore him entirely when he does it for the 11th time.

I would not underestimate how much OpenAI and friends would go out of their way to cheat on math benchmarks. In the techbro sphere, math is placed on a pedestal to the point where Math = Intelligence.

[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago

Presuming that they are all liars and cheaters is both contrary to the instincts of a scientist and entirely warranted by the empirical evidence.

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[-] saucerwizard@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago

OT: I have actually committed to a home improvement project for the first time in my life and I’m actually looking forward to it tomorrow.

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[-] FredFig@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46994169 As with bitcoin before it, LLM dev cycles are now tied with the phases of the moon.

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[-] nfultz@awful.systems 10 points 6 months ago
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[-] lurker@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

OpenAI is probably toast tldr OpenAI's financial situation is more cooked as a big investor shows doubt, WeWork 2 imminent

[-] samvines@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If famed bag holder SoftBank are starting to raise their eyebrows when asked about future investments, the jig is definitely up

Weirdly the media are reporting that they have made a profit on their investments but when you actually read the articles, they are saying that the magical imaginary money that their OpenAI shares are worth has gone up

[-] fiat_lux@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This snippet at the bottom of the NASDAQ link partially explains why:

Engineered by Benzinga Neuro, Edited by Pooja Rajkumari

The GPT-4-based Benzinga Neuro content generation system exploits the extensive Benzinga Ecosystem, including native data, APIs, and more to create comprehensive and timely stories for you.

[-] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago
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[-] sc_griffith@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

>10k words into writing a piece of fiction that has a lot to do with our good friends

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

OT: Anybody up for making convincing fake book cover/jacket art for "Don't Build the Torment Nexus"?

It just occured to me that having that as a fake book that's actually just a container for shit would make for a great addition to my desk at work, and I'm not finding any suitable pre-existing fake covers myself, surprisingly.

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[-] blakestacey@awful.systems 9 points 6 months ago
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