The files show extensive ties to Israeli, Saudi Arabi, and UAE elites as well. It's as straight-cut on class boundries as possible
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Also? The "we're mad about pedophiles" conspiracy crowd don't get credit when they decided to put Absolute Biggest Sex Crime Guy in charge of their movement and stay onboard when he says "I'm not releasing the evidence".
To add onto this, the Epstein case wasn't even a conspiracy theory. He got a plea deal in 2008 under the Bush Admin and a case was built against him under Bush and Obama culminating in an arrest of Epstein and Maxwell, and Maxwell's trial then sentencing from 2016 to 2018.
We also knew Trump was involved because Trump told us so on Television in 2002, and we had seen televised footage of the two attending parties together in 1992, and Epstein even mentioned it in his deposition in 2010.
The Miami Herald had published a lot of stories by the time Q came around. So all Q was was projection. Every accusation is a confession, there are no exceptions.
As someone who entered adulthood around the mid-10s, it was hard to keep track of what was real and what was bullshit between things like Anonymous, WikiLeaks, QAnon, and the Epstein files.
It was really hard to sort the nonsense from reality. Or more accurately by volume, the reality from the nonsense.
There was conspiring, so it was a conspiracy.
It wasn't a conspiracy theory, because it was a confirmed conspiracy. But too many people don't know the difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory.
Lumping every single conspiracy theorist together as if they had a unified belief system is silly.
This is what I hate about the "broken clock is right twice a day" thing. The process you use to get to a conclusion needs to be sound for it to matter. If you have a couple thousand stopped clocks showing different times, you can't claim to always know the correct time just because it's in there somewhere.
Sure, atrazine causes birth defects in frogs. If you tell me that frogs are being intentionally turned gay because the globalists are using them to test a chemical weapon that will be used to turn people gay so that they'll stop reproducing as part of a global depopulation plan, then you support a president who relaxes regulations on chemical disposal including atrazine, you don't get to wait for most people to forget all that context and claim your initial kernel of partial-truth as a victory. This is exactly the same thing, and we see it over and over and over and over.
My mother in law guessed the sex of my baby, twice. She guess both girl and boy. Then when the baby pictures arrived, she was really smug: "See, I told you! I have a feeling about these things!".
That's when I knew to never listen to another word she says.
Also, some conspiracies are always going to be right, but the details matter.
"There's a cabal of rich people who run the world!" I mean, yes. Obviously. But, the method matters here.
"Rich people make blood sacrifices in cult meetings, then replace the president with an android and the prime minister with a clone" is not the same as "rich people buy up newspapers and throw lavish fundraising dinners."
As for the main conspiracy, IMO it's not credible that everybody in Epstein's circle was a pedophile. It's not even credible that everyone in his circle knew he was one. I'm sure you don't become a billionaire without already being the kind of person who has a problem with empathy. But, Epstein's circle wasn't just billionaires. It was also intellectuals, politicians, artists, etc. Even if 99% of them were either pedophiles or perfectly OK with pedophilia (which seems unlikely) that remaining 1% could ruin his life.
What's believable is that he had an enormous circle of rich and powerful people, and that a small subset of them were in an inner circle where the child rape happened. In that case, it isn't that every rich and powerful person is part of a pedophile ring. It's that rich and powerful people were meeting and conspiring, and also some of them were pedophiles.
Having said that, I'm perfectly happy if the popular story is that everybody who was buddies with Epstein is a pedophile and should be removed from society, if not removed from the realm of the living. Those people deserve that kind of punishment, but not because they're pedophiles. But, it's too exhausting to try to convince people that someone like Bill Gates deserves to have his life ruined, even if he isn't a pedophile.
The CT's were as they always were.
Right about some things. Wrong about others. The FBI publicizing footage that shouldn't exist in order to make themselves look good in the Guthrie case, however, should be making everyone reconsider how they use and store their electronics.
That footage came from a cloud connected camera; google's cloud.
There is no conspiracy there. If you use a Google device, they are storing all of that data even if they will not give you access to it without a court order.
The FBI is run my bumbling idiots. The delay is because they didn't know how to ask properly.
Not too sure these guys are very straight. Sex isn’t even the key driver. It’s to humiliate others, to make others suffer for your pleasure.
It looks like Paraphilic disorder more than anything else I’ve seen.
Also Epstein was Jewish.
It’s far more complicated than a simple 4 paragraph twitter take I think.
Also Epstein was Jewish.
Whiteness and being Jewish have a complicated relationship but for the last few decades at least, someone can be both.
I mean Epstein was Jewish, boasted about being a Mossad agent in private, Ghislaine Maxwell is Jewish and the daughter of an Israeli spy. Top ranking Israeli officials like Ehud Barak are in the files, people like Noam Chomsky are in the files. Yeah there’s a lot of WASPs in there too, according to Epstein the only goyims he respected, but OP is being disingenuous by omitting all this.
Yeah MAGAts are retarded and imo religion is anyway not the important point to focus on but anyone can read the files so why accuse others of rewriting history and then doing it yourself?
Post in OP says "conspiracy of...Christian men" which certainly does NOT describe Epstein, the person at the epicentre of all this
It also says "rich white right-wing men", which does, and it's also true that most of the people involved in the cover-up purport to be Christians.
In the abridged interview with Maria Farmer, which I posted in this community yesterday, she speaks of massive Zionist elements in this. And she also says that none of the victims were Jewish, to her knowledge.
Sure, it's accusations, but I think quite important to keep in mind. Has anyone heard of any Jewish victims? And as you say, Epstein was Jewish, but he also had massive Israeli ties, as did/does Maxwell.
I could make a sourced list at some point to point to all the Zionist connections, but I think this is really well established already.
It's right to differentiate between half-truth conspiracy psyops and actual conspiracy, which has a legal definition too. But this poster oversimplified it to the point of another half-truth of mis-/disinformation.
Some stuff on the Israeli & Zionist ties of the innermost parts of the network.
Epstein ran Leslie Wexner's Pro-Israel Philanthropy Machine
On paper, the Wexner family’s philanthropic foundation and their retail empire, once home to Victoria’s Secret, Abercrombie & Fitch, and Bath & Body Works, were legally separate and largely had their own staff. But, in practice, as is typical of such foundations, one small family office sat over both the family’s fortune and philanthropy. Internal emails between Epstein, Indyke, and Wexner’s staff show Epstein as the effective boss of the family office, and the real gatekeeper of the Wexners’ money.
Epstein supporting Israeli PM
Interestingly, Barak was relying on Epstein’s support rather than vice versa, despite the fact that Barak was a very powerful figure in the Israeli security establishment. And so, these emails, in addition to House disclosures, which also point to the same information, show that this intelligence agent, who was a longtime military intelligence agent in Israel, who was Barak’s chief aide for many years, lived at Epstein’s house for significant stretches of time, weeks at a time, between this period of 2013 to 2015.
The Israeli government installed security equipment and controlled access to a Manhattan apartment building managed by convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, according to a set of emails recently released by the Department of Justice. The equipment was installed starting in early 2016 at 301 E. 66th Street—the residence where former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak frequently stayed for stretches at a time.
Funding of Zionist groups
Through Epstein’s COUQ Foundation, he provided Friends of the Israeli Defence Forces (FIDF) and the Jewish National Fund (JNF) with funds on at least one occasion, when he gifted $25,000 to the FIDF and $15,000 to the JNF in 2006.
According to the FIDF’s website, the organisation funds programmes for Israeli soldiers. Through its website, the organisation invites donors to adopt a brigade or battalion, such as the 97th Netzah Yehuda Battalion, which has been widely accused of killing unarmed civilians, killing detainees, torture, and mistreatment.
On Maxwell
[Robert] Maxwell poured money into the Israeli economy and died in mysterious circumstances after he was said to have fallen from his yacht in 1991, after embezzling millions from his company’s pension fund.
Epstein himself appeared to have suspected that the Israeli Mossad intelligence agency had a role in Maxwell’s death. An email Epstein sent in 2018 had the subject line “he was passed away”, referring to Maxwell.
In the message, Epstein claimed that Maxwell had previously threatened Israel’s intelligence service, writing that “unless they [the Mossad] gave him £400 million to save his [Maxwell’s] crumbling empire, he would expose all he had done for them”.
Unverified Zionist ties
An FBI memo produced by the bureau’s Los Angeles field office in October 2020 reported that one of its sources had come to believe Epstein “was a co-opted Mossad agent”.
According to the document, the disgraced financier was described as having been “trained as a spy” for Israel’s intelligence service.
The source also claimed Epstein maintained links to US and allied intelligence circles through his longtime lawyer Alan Dershowitz, the Harvard University law professor whose network, it said, included “many students from wealthy families”. Among those cited were Jared Kushner, US President Donald Trump’s son-in-law and envoy, and his brother, Josh Kushner, both described in the memo as former students.
So, sorry, "rich, straight, white right-wing Christian men" is just misinformation/disinformation.
By the time that Q thing got started, the Miami Herald had long been publishing details of Epstein, so all they did was take the villains and project their behavior onto the opponents of rw extremism, figuring it would never catch up to them.
So no, they don't deserve any credit. They just misdirected the villainy. That's negative credit.
Personally, I think the MAGA conspiracy theorists were deliberately engineered by the elite to create anti-LGBTQ+ theories. By projecting a myriad of false conspiracy theories, it helps discredit the actual conspiracy.
Jeffrey Epstein suggested that Moot add /pol/ to 4chan. /pol/ is literally where Qanon started. All of the “Wayfair is selling children” and “there is a video of Hillary Clinton killing a child for their ‘adenochrome’” conspiracies started there.
/pol/ is also where the “MAPS/minor attracted person” bullshit started, as an attempt to discredit LGBT people.
There were 100% conspiracy theorists who said it were powerful/rich white people. Why do you think stuff like X-Files was so popular in the 90s. People suspected clubs like that trying to rig everything.
Yes, some of them said it would be the jews or whatever, but that's only a part of the many, wild speculations and could have been racism.
But you don't owe any of them an apology, because they knew it was hard to prove and just theories/suspicions at this point.
I can highly reccommend the current Behind The Bastards series on the files. I had no idea all the places Epstein poisoned with his touch. Some examples: Bitcoin and fucking Micro-Transactions.
Not sure the guy who sucked Bubba is straight
No hate to regular everyday Jewish people much respect but Israel and the Zionists are a real problem and threat to the world. 
Yes. Sadly. I feel genuinely bad for Jewish people. Zionist's are like the Taliban or West Borough Baptist Church. Same flavor of extremist.
Wasn't Epstein a Mossad asset? So Jews were involved.
yes, there's a heavy connection between the zionists that run israel. whose interest happen to align heavily with the christo-facists and general rich bastards of the USA (who largely just want israel to act as a destabilizer for the ME, so they don't unify into another great power).
the interesting bit is Israel really doesn't have that much loyalty to the USA, as evidenced by pretty nuch any presser they do in hebrew (because most of their US-based zionists/supporters only speak english).
The conspiracy invents stupid theories to discredit the real ones duh.
What do you folks think about requesting to delete this for the amount of mis-/disinformation?
(I am not a mod, I just wanna know what others think)
Yes that is the end goal. It’s why there has been no discussion of the fact that Trump stole the 2024 election. The previous crybaby conspiracy fuckery immunized the public discourse to prevent any contemplation of stolen elections.
We do need to talk about Epsteins very real ties to Israel though, too and the fact Isreal is engaging in very serious and very real human rights violations.
Isreal is very much so at the heart and we can't forget that either but as a result I DO feel bad for normal Jewish people who will be pushed into insane conspiracy theories and they did nothing wrong.
Reference on Epsteins Isreal ties: https://youtu.be/j1AoPlJgEBQ
While we're at it, it's probably also worth mentioning that the Zionist entity's ties to pedophilia go way beyond just Epstein.
But then, what else would you expect from a fake country whose soldiers rioted for the right to rape their prisoners?