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Val Kilmer will be the latest Hollywood star to be resurrected by AI. The acting legend, who died last year at age 65, will star in the drama As Deep As the Grave.

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[-] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 172 points 7 months ago

He isn't staring in it. He's dead.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Well, being dead of course he's not going to be staring at much. Maybe the twinkly ether of the afterlife?

Now what his AI generated likeness can be starring in, is another issue.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 4 points 7 months ago

Not sure if that makes much of a difference. We know AI has problems telling how many 'R' s words have

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[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Guess you haven't seen Steven Seagal's performances in the past decade or so

[-] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 10 points 7 months ago

Seagal's not dead. He’s just fat, lazy, incompetent, and stupid. I look forward to Space Ice shitting on the "movie" he's supposed to release this year.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 7 months ago

hes in RUSSIA as court jester for putin,

[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 140 points 7 months ago

God forbid, a new and talented actor is discovered...

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 22 points 7 months ago

They take him because his face is known and loved. What reason would there be to take someone nobody knows? You can make up a new, imaginary actor and not pay anyone, not even family. What a wonderful world that'll be, without the need for pesky humans! 🫩

[-] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago
[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 19 points 7 months ago

replace the 🫩 with /s and read again.

only that /s doesn't really fit, because it's a mix of sarcasm and hate and it's getting harder to cope.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

it was pretty clear to me, don't overthink it

[-] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 months ago

Okay I thought so, but the hard shift between the first and 2nd sentence made me confused who you were being sarcastic to.

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 9 points 7 months ago

I think the realization came while writing and I was too lazy to adjust. I'm tired of ... all of this.

[-] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago

You're fine. There just seems like a lot more people in the comments rage baiting lately, but I don't like catching innocent people in the crossfire.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

My headcanon is that everything after 2008 was all reboots and remakes and now revived actors, and that’s why all the Star Trek references end there.

[-] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 7 months ago
[-] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 7 months ago

Essentially grave robbing memory instead of rings and jewelry. The rot grows.

[-] you_are_dust@lemmy.world 35 points 7 months ago

Well I guess this is how I found out that Val Kilmer died.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 4 points 7 months ago

Yo tambien. I have sadness now.

[-] tomkatt@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

This is utterly disgusting.

will star in the drama As Deep As the Grave.

Though at least the irony isn’t missed.

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[-] mech@feddit.org 27 points 7 months ago

So a cartoon character is copyrighted for 75 years after the author dies, but someone's actual visual clone can just be brought back from the dead and made to do whatever?

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The Kilmer estate is signing off on it because they feel it's an important film Val wanted to contribute to. Doesn't make it any less gross for me, but at least there's some oversight to his image I guess.

[-] 13igTyme@piefed.social 32 points 7 months ago

That just means someone is getting paid and doesn't give a fuck about Val Kilmer

[-] DreadPirateSnuggles@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 months ago

Then they should have insisted that they mupify his corpse

[-] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago

Nice. I'm putting that in my will.

[-] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

The Kilmer estate is signing off on it because they feel it's an ~~important film Val wanted to contribute to~~ opportunity to make money out of the memory of a cherished actor.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago

It's the rights to a person's likeness that can be made into a legal property that heirs can control.

This is why you don't see much marketing with, say, Elvis Presley's actual face (he was an actor - marginally capable for certain, but one nonetheless) unless it will be allowed by his heirs.

Look at it from the angle that an actor's FACE is their performative trademark, in the same way a singer's distinctive voice is theirs, or a writer's words, or a musician's composition.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 4 points 7 months ago

Not just likeness, Scarlett Johansson successfully sued a Fr*nch author for portraying her in a novel.

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[-] teft@piefed.social 24 points 7 months ago

Has anyone thought this through to its logical conclusion? If we're constantly resurrecting old talent using AI, or whatever the tech du jour is, then won't we stagnate culturally?

[-] Triton420@mander.xyz 35 points 7 months ago

Culturally, scientifically, intelligently, you name it we’ve reached the peak. AI is just recycling what humans have thought and said, According to our new ai overlords we just coast from here

[-] mech@feddit.org 12 points 7 months ago

Then why doesn't life feel like coasting?

[-] Agrivar@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago

You must not be a billionaire.

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[-] GalacticSushi@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 7 months ago

That's a problem for next quarter, kiddo.

[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago

Answering for Capitalism – follow the money.

[-] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago

No, the cost of doing this is far more than hiring an actor.

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[-] qwestjest78@lemmy.ca 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Here is what I find funny, there was years in the early 2000's where he was alive and healthy and he was not getting great roles or as much attention.

Now he is dead and they are trying to revive him. Like it feels so silly to try to bring back someone with AI to make it like he is alive and healthy again. Those days are gone. Executives are using AI to live in denial.

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[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 7 months ago

I thought the Actors' Strikes were supposed to prevent this bullshit? What the actual fuck.

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[-] FanciestPants@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

This is absolutely bullshit, but also half-assed cowardice. Like if you're going to put dead people who cannot consent to the use of their image in your project, why not make Martin Luther King Jr the next T'challa in the MCU? Why not make Pope Benedict fight the mandelorian?

[-] normalentrance@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago

Or macho man randy savage.

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[-] switcheroo@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

His family is okay with this??? Are they that fucking greedy???

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[-] KingGordon@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago
[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We're reaching levels of "torture John Candy in the metaverse" that we were only beginning to imagine a couple years ago.

You will never be allowed to die. You will dance for the cameras until history forgets your name and you're just a reflection of a reflection in an endless hall of mirrors, with no relation to who you might have ever been in reality. No more actors, pure simulacrum.

[-] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago

Not even worth pirating.

[-] regedit@lemmy.zip 9 points 7 months ago

More weaponization of nostalgia.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago

Remember that hate watching, even hate pirating, is watching.

[-] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I'm not gonna watch it, but can I anti-watch it, so my 'view' counts negatively against it?

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[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

For those who didn't read: Val himself had already signed up for this movie and it apparently meant a lot to him to star in it. The producers contacted his family to discuss the matter, and they consented to the idea.

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