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Trump says a 'whole civilization will die tonight' as deadline for Iran to reopen Strait of Hormuz looms | CBC (www.cbc.ca)

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U.S. President Donald Trump said in a social media post this morning that "a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again," as his threatened attacks on Iranian infrastructure loom ahead of an 8 p.m. ET deadline.

Iran has rejected a 45-day ceasefire proposal and says it wants a permanent end to the war.

UN Secretary General António Guterres warned the U.S. that attacking civilian infrastructure is banned under international law.

The death toll so far includes more than 1,900 people in Iran, 1,400 in Lebanon, 23 in Israel, about two dozen in other countries in the region, 13 U.S. service members and 11 Israeli soldiers.

The TruthSocial Post:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116363336033995961

UPDATE (5:32 PM EST / UTC-04:00):

Motherfucking TACO Tuesday.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116365796713313030

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[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 67 points 5 months ago

UN Secretary General António Guterres warned the U.S. that attacking civilian infrastructure is banned under international law.

Yeah, it is illegal. However is anyone to punish the US for it?

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Better write a letter to let know Israel that they can't legally genocide the Palestinian and Lebanese people.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Oh looks like they hit that mail truck. Got too close to the school they were bombing

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 5 months ago

I heard the mail truck was a terrorist mail truck. That school? It had secret tunnels for terrorists. Also, all those children? Terrorists.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 10 points 5 months ago

International law is totally meaningless unless there's people actually enforcing it.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

We don't enforce domestic laws in the US either, unless we are talking about poor people.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A year ago, with the Greenland / Canada threats and idiotic tariffs, I begged that there be some kind EU ... GIGN / GROM / KSK type operation to eliminate Trump and his cabinet.

I guess people thought I was joking.

Since then, things have gotten literally insanely worse, kidnapped Maduro, blew up NATO, essentially destroyed 20% of the world's economy, etc.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 57 points 5 months ago

I'm gonna murder all of you, and god bless you

Okay then...

[-] funkajunk@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

As in god bless their souls, AFTER I SEND THEM STRAIGHT TO HELL

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is a pretty straightforward declaration of genocidal intent. If the Americans bomb civilian infrastructure, there is a credible case for accusing them of Genocide in the Hague.

EDIT: Historian Timothy Snyder also identified it as such, pointing that this creates legal liabilities up and down the American state: https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-president-speaks-genocide

[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago

We are permenantly hyper fucked if the best interpretation of his words are bombing Iran's infrastructure so badly that Iran retaliates by destroying all oil and desalination facilities in surrounding countries, rendering them uninhabitable for millions.

[-] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago

Watch those betting sites for the US dropping a nuke, if a bunch of bets come in all at once (Trump insiders)….

I hate that what I typed above is plausible

[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately you are correct.

Also check out the Pentagon Pizza Index. They also source some I to on active bets on such sites, although take their accuracy with a grain of salt.

https://www.pizzint.watch/

[-] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 11 points 5 months ago

This is the best case scenario. We're right now at a point where this is the desirable outcome of his words. THIS.

The US have utterly fucked this world in about a year...

[-] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Republican traitor filth have completely fucked the world in a year....

[-] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 9 points 5 months ago

~60% of the country either voted for him or couldn't be arsed to vote at all, declaring with their non-vote that both candidates were equally valid.

Sorry mate but... it's the US. It's not just a minority of people. It's the fucking president and administration of the United States of America.

If he was just a republican traitor and not the president of the country, he wouldn't be threatening with nuking a country.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 9 points 5 months ago

Bro straight up admitted to rigging the elections multiple times.

[-] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 8 points 5 months ago

And yet, he only won by a fraction, not a landslide. However, it remains true that a good 30% of the country couldn't be bothered to vote. If only a portion of that 30% decided that maybe Harris was a slightly better president, we wouldn't be here today.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 3 points 5 months ago

That's what you want if you're rigging elections. If you make it too obvious too soon, someone might do something about it.

And it was the second highest eligible voter turnout in US history.

[-] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 3 points 5 months ago

You had one candidate that was Hitler in orange. He said it, he had a nazism instruction book that he said he would be doing if he won.

The other candidate could have been a dog for what's worth AND SHOULD HAVE WON BY LANDSLIDE.

Yet, this wasn't the case. He might have rigged the elections, fuck... he surely rigged the elections... But if your country worked, he should have needed to rig them so badly that the scandal could have seen from anywhere. And, if even then, he declared victory, you should have done a real 6th jan to remove him.

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[-] domusaltera@piefed.social 32 points 5 months ago

That's just such an Epstein files thing to say. How can a President Epstein files those words and expect the world not to Epstein files in revulsion. To be brutally Epstein files he seems a little desperate. These are not the words of a sane Epstein files.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

You do understand that evil people can do multiple evil things for multiple independent evil reasons, don't you? This "everything is a distraction from Epstein" is cringe.

[-] domusaltera@piefed.social 4 points 5 months ago

You know... you're right. I should be more Epstein files about it. You can't reduce a complex Epstein Files likes this to just one Epstein files.

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[-] ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca 23 points 5 months ago

He's gonna nuke Tehran isn't he?

Who could've guessed that eschewing the US's soft power they built up over decades for Russian style "might makes right" posturing and sabre rattling would not work? Trump is really speedrunning to "Chinese ultimatums" with this fiasco.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah this is the whole problem with the 'madman' strategy, when applied to nuclear armed states.

Its ... arguably much worse when the person employing the madman strategy... is literally a demented madman with a cult of personality atound him.

Hope you got your pip boy in working order.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Intrusive thought of the day:

Simulations suggest that evenly a relatively modest India/Pakistan exchange (modest by the standards of a full nuclear exchange between Russia and the US, you're still talking millions dead) would produce enough dust and soot into the air to seriously affect the climate of the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter#Recent_modeling

But that also implies nuclear winter exists on a scale. Even one H-bomb will have some affect. In principle, it would be possible to determine the precise level of nuclear winter required to combat global warming. Then, if the target country doesn't have nukes of their own to retaliate with, a nuclear power could drop just enough nukes to cause just enough nuclear winter to cancel out global warming. As long as they're the only one releasing any nukes, they could precisely control the scale of the resulting nuclear winter effect. Literally designing an act of mass genocide as a means of combating climate change.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 months ago

It is kind of darkly hilarious that concievably, some specific amount of nuclear warfare would theoretically cancel out at least some processes that are currently already running away in global warming.

The... problem of course is that no one knows the specifics of this with any degree of certainty... and if you do not know the specifics, well the potential downsides are essentially infinite.

But, if you have the brain of a religious extremist, or malignant narcissist... well, nuance doesn't compute so well for these people, but they are also, somewhat paradoxically, uncommonly good at asserting their own will and power.

In summary... if God is real, they're a trickster God.

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[-] Clbull@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Killing millions of innocent Iranians in a nuclear strike is a quick-fire way to turn the entire world against you. I sincerely hope this is a TACO situation and not Donald truly losing the plot.

[-] classic@fedia.io 3 points 5 months ago

I mean, it is Taco Tuesday so lets hope

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[-] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 23 points 5 months ago

HOW did this Man ONLY get the FIFA Peace Prize!

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[-] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

I don’t think he realizes how old Persian civilization really is

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

He would think you're talking about rugs...

[-] itszednotzee@sopuli.xyz 14 points 5 months ago

If this shit was in an apocalypse movie people would complain about it being unrealistic.

No way a US president would say that!
Really? via a social media post? did they run out of budget for actors? "Praise be to allah"? did the writers forget which side he's on?

If he hadn't TACO'd before this would be terrifying. not to say it's not horrible still

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 months ago

I'm hoping if he gives the order to demolish Tehran, or worse, nuke them, enough people refuse to do it.

[-] Bullerfar@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Am I the only one wondering how the fuck a president has all this power? I thought USA was a democracy, not a fucking dictatorship. Who has voted for all these wars? And if it's this easy to just get around an approval, shouldn't this be your main agenda for coming elections in the future, because your entire system rewards a guy like Trump for doing whatever he wants.

[-] christian@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

If either party actually disagreed on principle, we would have heard someone criticize the war on principle and not on breaking procedural norms or not planning the war well enough. Virtually every critique I have seen from elected officials, at least before this explicitly genocidal statement here, is some form of those two. "This war was poorly planned" is only a sidenote observation from someone actually opposed to a war of aggression. It's the most milquetoast opposition you can give to claim you were always against it when things go wrong. No way in hell am I going to accept that they were powerless to stop him when no one will even clearly lay out the actual reasons why this is wrong.

We know that actions speak louder than words, but if we want to give anyone else in our government the benefit of the doubt we're gonna have to figure out what comes next after words.

[-] night_petal@piefed.social 10 points 5 months ago

TACO already happened, btw. Delayed by two weeks.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

Yep, I just caught it, added an update to the main post body.

...

... fuck do i hate this shit.

[-] Tolc@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

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[-] FollyDolly@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

I don't want to have a nuclear war, my new birdfeeder is coming tomorrow.

[-] random_character_a@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Has Trump changed from pedophilia to BDSM?

"I'm gonna kick you in the balls and you will experience something wonderful. Then I will shit myself... again and you will watch"

[-] Klox@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Can you even imagine what Harris would have done?! Whew we really dodged a nuke.

[-] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 5 points 5 months ago

He's bullshitting.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Maybe. Either way it's an insane thing for the POTUS to say. The best case scenario is that he's so full of shit that he makes other insane politicians seem tame by comparison. That's not a good place for the US or the world to be, to say nothing of any other possible scenarios.

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[-] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 5 months ago

Where's the Kalshi bet that he TACOs this?

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[-] BC_viper@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Smells like bitch wherever trump goes. He ain't going to do shit.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago

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