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[-] undrwater@lemmy.world 93 points 4 months ago

Will they care / understand about false positives?

Not likely.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 63 points 4 months ago

Feature, not bug.

[-] crandlecan@mander.xyz 21 points 4 months ago

As long as they kill p. of c., it'll be deemed legal 🫡🤢

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 months ago

Their "facial recognition" ends up just being a binary switch on a light detector

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Took me waaaaay longer than it should have to realize "p. of c." means "people of color".

Still haven't figured out if you're censoring it, or if you think p. of c. is a faster way to abbriviate it.

Either way, that "shorthand" is stupid, and you should just write it out.

[-] turtlesareneat@piefed.ca 11 points 4 months ago

Folks who work in social justice will know the acronym "POC" but "p. of c." I don't usually encounter.

Are we sure it's not "prince of caspian?"

[-] IratePirate@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago

Naw, it's price of coffee. It's way too high and needs to be brought down.

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Remember 20 years ago when Wikileaks was telling us about all the false positives swept up in the War on Terror dragnet?

Both Bush and Obama got reelected. No one at the federal level gives a shit.

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[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago
[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago
[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago

Targets for what???? Being brown? They need AI to confirm their racism? Was the old peter griffin white/not white chart not doing it for them anymore???

[-] Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

You can't be called a racist if a machine decides it for you, same as if a drone does the killing, it mean you can't get convicted for murder even if you hit button to fire

/s

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[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I'm sure that's what it will be: proprietary and questionable algorithms to identify anyone that might not be a 3+ generation American of European origin.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

And to shove justification off to a black box. Awful hard to put an algorithm on trial.

[-] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

They're gonna fall back on the algo being racist and not the storm troopers with the nazi tattoos, those guys are just doing what the AI tells them.

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[-] mech@feddit.org 38 points 4 months ago

It'll use AI and even if you have your passport and birth certificate on you, proving they're wrong, you'll be in El Salvador before you can plead your case.

[-] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

i think that's already the case

[-] grimpy@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 4 months ago
[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Nah they are going to El Salvador.

[-] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 4 points 4 months ago

Disagree. What's further than hell?

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Notably the risks aren't simply that this will identify the undocumented its that it will provide a pretext to disappear almost anyone who isn't white.

The question is does any given non-white person look enough like one of over 10M people to get falsely flagged given agents a pretext to remove almost anyone they stop. Facial recognition of one person against a large enough database will almost always provide at least on possible match this is especially true if it matches against possible aliens and not against possibly aliens and citizens. EG a query of both will likely turn up Betty Sue Smith is herself and maybe a possible match with Known Deportable but a search against only aliens may return only Known Deportable with agents dismissing any claim by Betty that her ID must be fake.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 4 months ago

it will provide a pretext to disappear almost anyone who isn't white.

Pretty sure you don't need a.i. glasses to figure out what colour someone is.

[-] Canigou@jlai.lu 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No but you can say "The AI told me to detain them" and not take any responsibility. "I was just answering orders" is sadly too common of an excuse in doing the worst possible things...

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[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago

Time to carry portable EMPs

… uhhh how do I make one?

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You don't need a portable EMP.

All you need is basic KN95 mask and a hoodie. Or you can invest in sunglasses or ID-blocking eyeglasses, like IDGuard from Zenni. The point is to have your features covered as much as is feasible. When I go to a protest I wear a costume that covers my whole head and a jumpsuit.

You should have a KN95 on anyway if you're going out among people.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

You should know facial recognition software is optimized to defeat KN95 masks specifically

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

What do you think what you posted even means? covering most of what it is using to identify is already going to make it drastically more difficult to match

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The American people should wear masks and sun glasses when out.

[-] wilt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Head to toe body covering… wait…

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[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 15 points 4 months ago

Time to get your Insane Clown Posse makeup working.

[-] audaxdreik@pawb.social 4 points 4 months ago

I was thinking more Jokerz, but honestly ICP is cool by me. Not really my thing, but they've always been anti-fash and after Violent J's daughter got into the furry fandom and formed an alliance, they're solid in my book.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 months ago

I think there was an article a while back about how juggalo makeup is actually very effective at blocking facial recognition

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[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 months ago

Wrong. The glasses will misidentify in real time.

The goal is to "accidentally" arrest and deport US citizens.

[-] msage@programming.dev 11 points 4 months ago

Always has been.

Cameras are THE tools for surveilance, and adding more everywhere has always had only one goal.

[-] BillCheddar@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Everyone should be wearing a Luigi mask anyway.

Like in V for Vendetta, but Saint Luigi instead.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Look hard enough, or message the sellers and you can get Luigi.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 4 months ago

Why bother they just target random people anyway. I have never seen any indication that their behaviour is in any way directed.

[-] ExperiencedWinter@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

The point is to absolve the human behind the arrest from responsibility. "The system" gets to do the decision making, then the human can't be responsible for making a mistake and arresting the wrong person.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

So we are doing “just following orders” again?

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[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

You guys have to install using fake mustaches/nose/glasses thing as a new trend... idk how do you call this

[-] FE80@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Groucho glasses.

[-] Pavidus@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Not a problem, really. They wear masks? So do I.

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[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

how convenient, the android zuckeborg has just deployed these glasses for those purposes.

[-] daggermoon@piefed.world 5 points 4 months ago

Is this like how we planned to nuke the moon in the '50s to scare the Russians?

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 4 months ago

The glasses don't have to work, they just need "plausible" excuses for picking up anyone who catches their fancy. $1,500 a head, be it man, child, or woman.

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