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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@piefed.world 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

hehe, perfect response to this one

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] Shipgirlboy@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good riddance, Abrams is a hack anyways

[–] subverted_per@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago

Hence the sequals

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The coolest thing about those movies I know is that in one of them, the warp drive was that experiment at Livermore Labs where they are basically making miniature suns.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

He lowered the number of lens flares in the second movie because his wife yelled at him

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Do people not like the 2009 Star Trek movie? I thought it was awesome.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's fine. Solid casting, especially Urban as McCoy. Biggest gripe is that its essentially the plot of Star Wars, which JJ went on to repeat with Episode 7. That and the excessive lens flare. I'll still watch it once in a blue milk moon.

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 4 points 2 months ago

That we didn't get more of Urban's McCoy is the biggest failing of the series. Could've done a whole TV show where he's a doctor stationed on some remote space station, getting annoyed at every problem that comes into Medbay.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It has plot holes big enough to drive a starship through.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I saw 40 minutes of one of them once. They lost me at building the fucking starship on the ground in a field like a barn or something. For as fast and loose as Trek plays with physics, ignoring the obvious problems inherent with that for the sake of a plot point was a bridge too far for me.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That I could forgive. What bothered me most was Kirk's entire character arc, which went approximately as follows:

  1. Be a criminal fuck-up with emotional problems.
  2. Become Starfleet cadet (because nepotism?).
  3. Fuck up some more, and mutiny.
  4. ???
  5. Get appointed captain?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!?!?

Kirk should've been thrown out the fucking airlock when Spock had the chance. Or at least ended up court-martialed and in a penal colony.

Oh, and by the way, Scotty invented a teleporter that worked at intersteller distances, which rendered the entire premise of the franchise -- TREKKING between STARS -- moot!

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Theres a huge difference between a "bad boy" and a competent leader that bends the rules to accomplish big picture goals. Bad boys are largely unsustainable and they can only have a redemption arc long term. A bad boy doesn't reprogram Tue Kobayashi Maru to be the only person ever to succeed. They break the simulator and get a technicality D-.

[–] Routhinator@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Not to mention an entire universe history of them being assembled in orbit.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stylistically, it's spectacular. Plot and theme are both weak, but a good introduction to the characters. I do appreciate how much TOS tribute it fits into the package.

Into Darkness intoduced more classic Trek anti-militarization messaging, but the story was dreadful, and somewhat presaged what happened with Abrams and the final Star Wars film.

Beyond was the best Trek film of that era but, of course, Abrams wasn't involved in it.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Was "into darkness" the one where an assassin casually uses an interstellar transporter to escape to kronos from earth in the opening scene? You know, a technology that undermines all of trek lore, and is somehow not the central plot point?

[–] Routhinator@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh lets not forget:

  • Cold fusion bombs FREEZE volcanoes
  • Tribble blood cures death.
[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even if I accept the rediculous elements, the plot is so shoddy. There's some dropped plotline about Kirk's health failing that gets referenced at the start but then forgotten entirely? It reminds me of Finn's near death confession of something to Rey in JJ's Star Wars that also receives no follow up. It's like he gets bored editting his own movie and just nopes out after one pass.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

The air of something interesting in place of actually having something interesting to say. That's just how Abrams writes. It's not like just a mistake he makes kinda frequently, it's deliberate. He has a whole TED talk about it.

[–] rainwall@piefed.social 4 points 2 months ago

I think I blacked out after the teleporter scene. It was likely for the best.

[–] negativenull@piefed.world 10 points 2 months ago

I do enjoy the Kelvin movies, but they are a bit controversial for some. They are more action based, and less philosophical than was expected. Jj Abrams was also controversial as he wasn't invested in Trek.

It is okay to like them.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's an ok sci-fi action move, but Star Trek has never been about the action, the best stuff was always when two sides come together and learn from one and other. That's the whole point, really.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

I mean... I don't want to spend a lot of time defending 2009, but that does describe Kirk and Spock's story arc in the film.

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's fair! I mostly love it for being the closest thing we'll ever get to an EV Nova movie (there are tons of references and sound effects from the game scattered about, and the plot follows a similar beat to most of the EV Nova storylines)

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 4 points 2 months ago

It’s been a while but I remember they felt too action packed. And the dialogue scenes just didn’t have “it”.

When Picard or Kirk have a conversation with an adversary there’s a certain pacing that creates an intimacy and intensity to it. Which is to me peak Star Trek. I don’t really remember feeling that with those movies.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

It's fucking drek

Having said that, it has the name star trek, but it's not star trek. Star trek is something specific, it's more than a ship called enterprise. Star trek is not pew pew. Star trek is not CGI explosions every 3 seconds. Star trek is not action on the edge of your seat. Star trek is not fighting, anger, depression, darkness. And FFS, they even called a movie "into darkness"

Star trek is about morals and ethics, and not to slap you over the face with it but to present you a situation, and make you think about it in a positive way. I can think about certain TNG episodes for days, still.

Too bad they stopped making star trek after ST: Enterprise but there is good news: Watch The Orville, it's basically TNG for the 2020's, made by people who love star trek for people who love star trek

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

isn't shatner like 99 or something rn? why would anyone be bringing him back into the modern trek universe

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what I watched but I was the correct amount of high for it

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

It's a deep cut gut punch, but worth the price of admition.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Watch on the Apple Vision Pro at peak quality

was this filmed with VR in mind? is that why it's so wide?

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Nah. Just attempting to accommodate the Shat.

[–] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Now that he's done crapping up gen X's beloved films, maybe he can make an awful Avatar or Phineas and Ferb movie.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Well good riddance? I mean, all we have left is a smouldering corpse, at this point, and star trek will never be the same joy again for me, but good riddance.