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Canadians Determined to Travel, No Matter What, Just Not To U.S. (openjaw.com)
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[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yes, now is the time to travel. It won't be a great option for most for too much longer. That's a worlwide problem, not just Canadians. But Canadians historically traveling to

My feeling is that everybody consciously or unconsciously understands the same thing: the world we knew is gone, the epstein class is dismantling everything and preparing for a new world the common person will be unable to thrive in.

Inflation is coming to steal what's left of middle class wealth, supercharged by the oil crisis and climate change. Thanks to the US first and foremost. So of course traveling there is out.

This is where I usually advocate for people to protect themselves from inflation but every time I bring a certain topic up I get downvoted to oblivion. Just understand that inflation means your money is worth less and less, it's not only that "things cost more and more".

Good luck out there.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am curious what your advice is on protecting against inflation.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I would start moving wealth into the "hardest" form of money. Traditionally that has been gold. Lest I be accused of shilling, just do a bit of research into what is considered to be the hardest form of money availabile today.

Hint: you will find that anywhere hyperinflation is a problem, the population tends to move their money into this en masse. And that's a preview of the global picture to come.

It also rhymes with mitcoin.

Just don't blame me if people lose their minds about the comment.....

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

a fake currency with no basis in any value is now "hard money".

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Case in point.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Now watch someone react to my stupid statement."

"See!!!??!"

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[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Stupid statement?

Ok, explain how Bitcoin works and then why it's a stupid statement, and then I'll give you the time of day.

I've said this line dozens of times now, I've yet to see one person explain how it works and also why it's "stupid", a scam, etc. That won't change today. I welcome you to try.

Or don't, I'm not responsible for your poor decision making.

Edit: 3 hours. Let's see if this person can be the very first!

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So your answer to tech fascism, where computer parts get incredibly expensive and the free internet is replaced with applications with mandatory backdoors, is to put all your money into a digital currency that you may no longer be able to access? Imagine the government appropriating your life savings with a click of a button.

Why not hoard stuff people will actually want in a crisis, like shelf-stable food or medication?

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

No one can take my Bitcoin.

First step is understanding it.

Edit: I have to laugh honestly..... so the argument here is that it's a bad idea to own decentralized and self-sovreign money when the government is evil? And the literally government regulated banks and markets are safe???

I always buy more bitcoin when I have these interactions online. Almost every time.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Relevant xkcd:

Though more practically at scale, the banks could lobby that every encrypted message on the internet has to be endorsed by a major corporation or else ISPs have to block it. Thus you can't sync with the blockchain and you can't sell your bitcoin for anything. It is yours but it is frozen.

Or, alternatively, the OS of the device you use to authorize bitcoin payments could have a backdoor so that next time you authorize a transaction, the device swaps the receiver to [insert megacorp] and the amount to everything in your wallet without telling you. Nobody is taking your bitcoin, you're giving it to them.

And yes, as I said, the answer isn't to put money in banks, but in supplies, barter goods, survival skills and social capital. Why sell bitcoin for a can of beans when you can have a can of beans? Why try to convince someone to accept bitcoin when you can give them clean bandaids or a drinking water filter?

Why pay someone bitcoin to fix the hole in your roof when you can help them set up solar panels? Why use bitcoin to hire someone to guard you from wrench attacks when you can have friends who will protect you for free?

All of this is breadcrumbing the way to anarchocommunism. Friendships and bonds of trust can not be stolen. Skills can not be expropriated. Hoards run dry but useful labor doesn't.

You are free to buy more bitcoin. On my desk I have a Roman coin of someone who followed the same logic as you, 1700 years ago. It didn't help them, but maybe you will have better luck.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Appreciate the effort, but if your argument is that the government/civilization will be so tightly controlled and apocalyptic that Bitcoin will surely die, then I'll go buy some more again. I'll also take a stab in the dark and guess that you're American, as usually it's only Americans who speak in a way that makes it sound like they're the only country in the world ("the government"? Of what?? Every single country at the same time?)

If you think civilisation is going to die, then Bitcoin is a much worse idea than hoarding food. Yes, you got me.

The $5 wrench argument is cute until you realize you can beat someone with a $5 wrench until they give you their credit card PIN, or gold stored in their house, or beanie baby collection, or.....

Finally, my challenge which still has not been met, is to explain how Bitcoin works and then why it will fail. Care to try to be the first?

Or how about a mini challenge? Explain why countries who experience hyperinflation see massive inflows into Bitcoin? What's going on there in your mind? Mass psychosis?

Edit: If you wish, I can make an xkcd-like comic that shows someone being beaten with a $5 wrench for their massive pile of food and emergency supplies. Uh oh.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you're issuing challenges, then I have a challenge for you: How do you defeat the $5 wrench? I have given the answer, but can you comprehend it?

“the government”? Of what?? Every single country at the same time?)

Of the person reading this sentence, obviously. In my case EU lawmakers are making moves to restrict encryption which would make Bitcoin non-secure.

Finally, my challenge which still has not been met, is to explain how Bitcoin works and then why it will fail. Care to try to be the first?

Bitcoin is a currency divided among wallets as described in the blockchain. The blockchain is a ledger file synchronized across all users. Bitcoin can fail when synchonization is lost, such as in the scenario I described where ISPs only allow encryption if it is authorized by specific organisations. Bitcoin can be sabotaged by hacking the software you use to transfer it. And bitcoin can be useless when people ostracize you the moment you mention having it.

Explain why countries who experience hyperinflation see massive inflows into Bitcoin? What’s going on there in your mind? Mass psychosis?

Because in those cases bitcoin is more stable, being supported by the global bitcoin economy which in turn is supported by liberal capitalism. I intend to destroy the latter and boycott the former.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

You did not describe how bitcoin works. You gave a short description of what it is, and then a list of objectively false statements.

  1. Re: the $5 wrench. Store your Bitcoin keys in a secure location. It's very simple to not give "your password" (it's actually 12 or 24 words, not a password) when being beaten by a wrench if you don't know it, like many Bitcoin users. Plus, plausible deniabilty - who's going to kill you for not memorizing 24 random words when there are so many other ways to secure it?

  2. "Bitcoin can fail when synchronization is lost". No. In fact the whole point is that it's so impossible to wreck the synchronization of the network. It doesn't all have to be "in sync", it's decentralized so that bad actors cannot prevent it from running.

  3. "Bitcoin can be sabotaged by hacking the software used to transfer it". No. Common error, you am should say your Bitcoin can be sabotaged. The bitcoin network doesn't care if you're careless or ignorant..... bitcoin will survive just fine, even if you lose yours.

  4. "Bitcoin can be useless when people ostracize you in the moment for having it." What?

  5. "I intend to destroy (liberal capitalism) and boycott (Bitcoin). Ooooook bud. Bitcoin also doesn't care about your political philosophy. People aren't going to not utilize an inflation proof decentralized currency when inflation hits double digits and more.

Maybe we're miscommunicating here. I'm not saying that Bitcoin is completely and totally invincible. But nothing is. And it's more invincible than fiat currency by a wiiiiiide margin. And even more so than gold. Or stocks. Or real estate. Or anything you can come up with. It's objective fact. And if think people are just suddenly going to stop using it and converting their hyperinflating currencies to it....I wish you luck.

Here's the kicker to all this. Somehow a few loonies have gotten it in their heads that Bitcoin is capitalist, or elitist, or something. That's the fucking funniest thing I've ever heard. Bitcoin is a direct threat to capitalist exploitation. Just because the rich are investing in it doesn't make it capitalist. Rich are gonna rich.

You're going to sit there and tell me Bitcoin is "supported by liberal capitalism" when literally no one controls it, the rules are public, the records are public..... my god man. If you actually understood how it worked l, and I mean how it actually works, how a block is mined, how transactions are verified, how the network works..... you'd probably lose your mind at having hand-waved it away in ignorance.....

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gold/silver is still an option, doesn't have to be bitcoin.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Definitely.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, now is the time to travel.

most of the world is running dangerously low on jet fuel.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh my mistake. I didn't realize it was already too late to travel anymore. Silly of me. My thinking was that anyone with ambition to travel better do it before it's too late, but thankfully we have you sticking your contrarian nose all over the place to set us straight!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

Guilty, contrary to bullshit. You might encounter fewer contrarians if you stop posting stupid statements.

[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if I were to travel anywhere, Id be hard pressed to return to canada.. I would most likely plan a 1 way trip and retire out of the country. Western world in my eyes is overly corrupt in your face and dying and I want off this sinking ship. I'll go live in a shack somewhere and cook food for locals in the country of my chosing (if accepted obviously..)

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree in the sense of unbridled capitalism being the root cause of corruption. But Canada is still a far cry from the American situation. We'd appreciate anyone's visit, as long as you're not an asshole!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree in the sense of unbridled capitalism being the root cause of corruption.

Says the crypto bro.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

You're so ignorant it's actually painful to read

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 17 points 3 months ago

You gotta be one dumb motherfucker to voluntarily, at your own expense, set foot in the USA. What a dumb motherfucking idea.

[–] Gmak2442@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The bad temp don't stop us.