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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

From the latest Perceptions of Democracy index, from NIRA Data:

Ukrainians are among the most skeptical of the democratic processes in their country. Meanwhile, even a country as hotly contested as Venezuela, faith in elections is skyrocketing. And this is gathered by a western org run by a NATO official.

[-] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago

As always, I would like to point out that these kinds of surveys of public opinion are not really evidence of anything besides public opinion itself.

You cannot assert that a certain country has more or less of some quality simply because more people in that country said they think they do more frequently than people in a different country did.

For example if you asked Americans (particularly those in the south or rural areas) if they thought their country was more “free” than the rest of the world, you would probably get higher numbers than you would from most other regions of the world despite the fact that America is not that free relative to much of the world.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago

Trends in perception, as well as comparison, does tell a good story. In many ways it's a superior method of data gathering on democracy than the standard method of defining democracy as whatever the Nordics are doing, and then grading everyone based on how closely they follow that.

[-] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

Direct comparison of perception of democracy by people who have lived in both countries would be much clearer evidence of differences in democracy itself.

However, the raw perception of democracy without any other reference to other democracies does not allow for comparison/measurement of democracy itself but rather indicates how happy individuals feel within their current democracy.

The data is a good story and it does encode information, but that information is more significantly influenced by culture, current events, and overall happiness of the populace than it is by “level of democracy”

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

Sure. When I mean comparison, I mean in trends. If a country scores lower in one year while another scores higher, and this trend repeats, it's a sign of improving and decaying conditions. Democracy isn't really something you can measure directly, which makes the entire subject pretty muddy.

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Canceling elections is totally fine if it's our guy

[-] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 18 points 4 months ago

What part of martial law do you not understand?

A country being invaded can be and will be overthrown if possible. In fact, it's been done many times in European imperialist history.

That's why the clause exists, even before democracy was normalized in Europe. Just find someone else in line for procession and install a puppet prince.

It's even been abused. Some speculate that Trump would trigger martial law to stay in office - or even Netenyahu himself clinging to power.

In the end you don't want a captured government. That's also historically been really bad.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Letting democracy exist is bad because then the government might change hands.

Gotcha.

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[-] DependentFeature3028@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Oh boy the reddit imperialists are angry with this one

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[-] astar26@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Just for factual correctness (don't actually care about your opinion) - no Israeli election was cancelled. Bibi himself lost an election in 2020.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago

Ukraine being less democratic than Israel is not the gotcha its supporters expected

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[-] dashdanw@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

so much pro russian propaganda in the meme channel, crazy

[-] 1Malayali@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Actually, the opposite.

Crazy to see many imperialist supporters trying to justify Western capitalist puppets/allies

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