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[–] rothaine@lemm.ee 52 points 10 months ago (4 children)

*every known letter of the alphabet.

The implication that there are undiscovered letters creates excitement for the reader. Who knows what is out there!

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 10 months ago

math nerds delve into Greek and even Hebrew for special cases.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Maybe it is like one of those ancient curses. Like every time someone says the undiscovered one it solves Bathla devour of souls

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[–] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Starts to make sense how some conspiracies come out when you get examples like this of people being blatantly ignorant of evidence right in front of their noses

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

In my experience it has less to do with stuff like this where people are just not looking close enough or are mistaken and more to do with the idea of them being wrong being impossible. Conspiracies that I interact with don’t even discuss evidence. Because they can’t be wrong and there’s no way to falsify their worldview.

[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A lot of it has to do with wanting to be superior. They have feelings of not having control so they tell themselves and each other that everyone else is stupid and being fooled but not them, they are the smart few, they know the truth, they are the in crowd.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

W is in brown

E is in over

V is in over

Z is in lazy

K is in quick

And I can't endorse any viewpoint that tells me to accept something on faith. You might not have time to do your own research on every single issue but you are certainly welcome too

[–] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This isn't about not doing your research. It's a lesson in the pitfalls of thinking you've competently done your research..

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't say that in the picture. Did you determine this on your own?

[–] RHSJack@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I didn't look at the picture or read any other comments, so I am going to say 'yes'. Or 'no'. I'm going to need coffee first and that usually ends up with me forgetting this post by the time I get back.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Most people are incapable of doing their own research. It takes time and money to do studies. It takes years of training to define proper study parameters.

Many people are also incapable of doing a meta analysis based on reading studies and opinions on the Internet. It takes years to root out the mental fallacies that we seem to be born with. But at least many can do this.

Most people should find a trusted source or two and just read those.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Should say to have your research peer reviewed

They did it and were wrong but now they can be corrected

[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It has become impossible to tell if these people are trolling, stupid, or both.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Poe's law at its finest

[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was doubting for a second there. I was like, wait where is the V...

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah I found it, but thanks

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Sphinx of Black Quartz; Hear My Vow!

(I vow never to become illiterate)

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

"judge" not "hear"

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

"judge" not "hear"

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Those same people do math incorrectly and shout at everyone else to do it their way.

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Of course, there's also the times where we just make the research hard to do.

Like, we teach kids PEMDAS, but then don't actually follow PEMDAS in the original textbooks that introduce it and definitely not in common math or physics texts.

Like, you'll see 1/2√r in Feynman's lectures being written not to represent ½√r = √r / 2 as pemdas would suggest, but 1/(2√r).

Similarly, the original textbooks that introduced PEMDAS, if you read them, actually followed what you might call PEJMDAS, where multiplication via juxtaposition is treated as binding tighter than explicit multiplication, so 1÷2(2+3) would be interpreted not as ½(5) but as 1 ÷ (2 * 5), but they considered that so obvious they didn't bother to explicitly spell it out in the rules.

And now we have Facebook memes and tiktok livestreams arguing about what 1÷2(2+3) actually means.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago

Laughs in RPN

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also by the time you've learned order of operations, you've outgrown the ÷ operator. You would never write 1 ÷ (2 * 5), you would write it with a proper numerator and denominator like anyone outside of elementary school would.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I hate these math problems you see on social media. No one would write that way or code that way. It is ambiguous, and even if it weren't it is still hard to figure out. I think in my entire career I have seen one single line of code that took PEMDAS to sort out, I remember that line and the programmer told me that they were exploiting a feature of the complier to get slightly faster results. He was an annoying person

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

In the UK it's (or at least was) BODMAS. Just to complicate things further.

[–] s_s@lemmy.one 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I especially like when the person who says "theres[sic] no letter e" is wrong 3 times and makes a spelling mistake. 😂

Absolute disasterclass.

[–] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is actually a perfect representation of the shallow "research" conspiracy theorists do.

Quoting only the first few lines of an abstract outlining a problem/open question then ignoring the rest of the paper where they address the issue in the abstract.

This way, they can claim that the paper says the exact opposite of what it does.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

the availability of text on the internet can make people believe they're an expert on topics that take a lifetime to understand

if people should do their own research, we may as well shutter the national labs and universities

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I miss ä, ö, ü and ß though. /j

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're missing the V because they pronounce over as "o'er"

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Da quik braun fox jumps o'va da lazy dog

No C, E, H or W either

[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Sphynx (SPHYNX) of black quartz judge my vow

[–] elrac@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Am I blind or is there no letter i?

[–] Lightdm@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

There is a "y" in "my" so maybe "Sphinx" would complete the sentence?

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

yeah it's Sphinx

Sphinx of Black Quartz, Judge My Vow

[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Am I blind or is there no letter f?

Edit: Yup, I'm blind.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Yup, I'm blind. Thanks!

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

You most definitely do your own research.

Edit: This person was very right I was just joking jeez.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 10 months ago

Pack my box with five dozen liquor jugs

[–] seaweedsheep@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Another Venture Bros. fan?

[–] OurTragicUniverse@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I even catch myself doing it out loud, on the rare occasion the word comes up.

Fucking brilliant show. Still need to watch the film but part of me feels like doing so is admitting it's over, so I'm going to keep putting it off for a bit I think.

[–] seaweedsheep@midwest.social 1 points 10 months ago

I understand that completely. I keep telling myself I'm going to rewatch the whole series, but I can't quite bring myself to watch that final movie. Once I do, that's it; there's no more new VB.

[–] cuck4mai@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

Easily the best panagram.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

~~No f but a ph. You need five sphinxes~~

Found it.

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