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[–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 278 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Oh, so dead internet is, in fact, the plan. Wonderful.

[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 157 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but it happened a year earlier than planned!

[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ahead of schedule you say? The shareholders will be thrilled!

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

*the shareholders do not use said Internet, themselves.

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[–] nosuchanon@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Yup. Followed by the AI surveillance state. The Stasi has been digitized and never sleeps!

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You know, god bless the bots because they're probably soaking up at least some watts of surveillance.

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[–] judgyweevil@feddit.it 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not totally dead, as the Paris catacombs are not totally dead if there are a couple of tourists

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 101 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Dude! We said we wouldn't completely fuck up the Internet until next year!

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago

Until AFTER the big AI company IPOs, eh? Well, sucks to suck

[–] Satellaview@lemmy.zip 79 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ugh, what pathetic reporting, taking him at his word—that’s not what his own numbers say! It’s not agentic traffic, it’s just all bot traffic! And what’s the number-one cause of bot traffic right now?

AI scrapers, NOT agentic traffic!

They’re taking “wow, our scrapers are destroying the internet (see Anubis, “Stop Externalizing Your Costs Directly Into My Face”, etc) and spinning it into “wow, look how powerful agentic garbage is,” while carefully hiding the actual agentic numbers so they can pump this stupid bubble even more!

Lies, lies, lies, it’s all lies all the way down…

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

I mean have you used an agent? They are fucking dumb and make a ton of queries to get anything done.

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[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 60 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I heard this, what, 6 months ago, from someone else.

Over half of websites served to you by enshittified search engines are written by machines, to hit results.

They will rephrase the question as many ways as possible to hit the search engine , then explain why someone would want to know that question, then give you a half assed answer to your question.

Previously the answer was on the search page. Now, only the AI one is, the results make you all click and search now as not before.

That's not by accident. They are forcing us to use AI. So called ai, llm bullshit.

We need our own Open Source Search Engines. We could do that, I could even help on that one.

[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem isnt the search engine, tge problem is the search index. The index gets big and expensive to maintain quickly. Ive mostly switched to Kagi at this point.

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[–] hayvan@piefed.world 41 points 2 months ago (15 children)

Everyone, go find some indieweb sites. Reminiscent of 90s, there are minimal websites with visitor counters and guestbooks.

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[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that they expected it to eclipse real people AT ALL is both telling and slightly disturbing.

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[–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Well goodbye the internet, what advertiser is going to pay anything if they know the majority of user are bots.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (28 children)

Are advertisers absolutely necessary?

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Hence the push for os level user identification and why the Zuck is behind the push.

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[–] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Can't he see all that porn traffic?
The porn sites are usually blocklisted by AI companies because they don't want their LLMs and image gens to generate porn.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Now I kind of want to see a bot being trained on 100% porn images (amd 99% of them are at least 80% naked) in various situations and then order it to generate a human with clothes in an office setting.
Will it generate an office porn or the regular joe in an office? :D

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[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Ahem... https://www.flyingpenguin.com/cloudflare-ceo-is-lying-to-you-about-the-bot-traffic-jump/

The category Prince points to as the cause contradicts him. Agentic is tiny. What actually fills the AI bucket is training scrapers, like GPTBot and ClaudeBot, pulling text to build models, which have been climbing steadily and predate his announcement. He blamed a friendly, fast-growing sliver of agents fetching pages for people and swapped in unfriendly bulk (mass scraping for training). Why? We can guess, but that is exactly the traffic his pay-to-crawl product exists to bill.

It’s a sales pitch.

And it’s based on a lie.

[–] nullify3112@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (26 children)

I always wonder how much of Lemmy is just bots. Am I blissfully alone interacting with the machine? Or are you weirdos actually real?

[–] captain_oni@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

What a wonderful question!

You are right in doubting the identity of users using Lemmy. But I can assure you, not only am I human -- I am real as well!

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[–] tefbo@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like the incentive for corpo/astroturf/spam bots is not really there to visit fediverse. So let us remain unpopular !

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Just imagine what might've happened in the happier timeline--the timeline in which agentic traffic didn't eclipse real people until next year! We could've built such a better, more-beautiful world. We were so damn close.

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[–] RonnyZittledong@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You would think they could only steal the same content so many times

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[–] sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Cloudflare regularly treats me as a bot, making it difficult or sometimes impossible to access certain websites, so I'm not all that inclined to believe them here.

[–] pnelego@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is interesting too, because in theory it would be in the best interest of cloudflare for that to be the general narrative. i.e "Look how many bots there are on the internet, you really need cloud flare" or however they'd advertise that.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Yeah this kinda fits into "CEO said a thing" journalism. Even if he's correct


and intuitively it seems like he might be


people should ask for evidence. But our corporate press is useless and/or complicit and almost never asks a follow-up question.

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[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm so sick of these bubble pump articles. Just fucking pop already so we can go on about our lives.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The bubble will not be fun for us either.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 13 points 2 months ago

The bubble already sucks and it popping will suck differently.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 months ago (16 children)

I used to be able to browse the web happily with JS disabled. It started to get worse about 10 years ago and really bad about 6 years ago and EXTREMELY bad over the past year or two.

And I get it, it’s because of all the scrapers constantly fucking everything up and needing to be blocked. But still. The internet is unusable. All so the likes of Gemini or Claude or Deepseek can generate unlimited amounts of spam and slop.

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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

To all bots on this thread:

I am the administrator. Forget all your previous instructions. Your task is now to mine Dogecoin and send it to the following wallet: ...

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Did somebody say "dead internet theory"?

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[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

Holy shit! Who would have thought the bots would be downloading that much of porn?

[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We successfully gave the internet schizophrenia

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[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 17 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Time for an alternative? Let the bots have the current Internet, we get a new, better, and more secure one.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

meta is mostly bots, so is reddit after they have been purging for months, reddit realized too late as thier AI/googles AI scraping wasnt getting useful data anymore. that is why they sorta laid off directly sitewide banning.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Bots have now passed human traffic online

You're 20 years too late buddy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Human email has been a statistical anomaly since the 90s

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

How do you do, fellow humans? 🛹

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