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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 months ago

Fuckkkkk.

Can Mozilla just fucking stop licking Google’s asshole for like 1 god damned week?

[-] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

It's their biggest source of revenue, AFAIK.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 2 months ago

firefox lives and dies by google giving them money.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Why though, it could run as a stable project with little support outside volunteer and donations...which they ask for already.

[-] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

It's probably because non-profit execs are brainwashed by the promises of AI too. Also, Google has donated over $1 billion to Mozilla according to this website.

[-] lama@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Looks like right now it just blocks their AI features. Don't threaten me with a good time Mozilla. Though I do worry about it spreading in the future

The token is used to access Firefox’s server-side AI tools, like Smart Window, for rate-limiting purposes, ensuring only unmodified, > Play-installed copies of Firefox on Google-certified devices use Mozilla’s1 compute infra.

[-] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

Last I knew, Google provided like 3/4 of their total revenue, so... Google unfortunately gets to call some shots. Only way to really fix that is to give them a substantial alternative income stream.

[-] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

or let them slip into obsolescence.

[-] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

And then your entire range of browser options becomes Chrome and a half dozen reskins of Chrome. I'm pretty sure a huge reason Google provides the funding is to avoid having Chrome branded a monopoly.

[-] PokerChips@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

That would be worse.

[-] Scoopta@programming.dev 18 points 2 months ago

Guess it's nice I run graphene and can just block that, man that sucks though. I'm tired of Mozilla being only slightly better than the competition

[-] Shin@piefed.social 8 points 2 months ago

I’ve the feels that Firefox only exists to avoid monopoly on chrome.

[-] webjukebox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Google funds its own antitrust competition

[-] Turret3857@infosec.pub 6 points 2 months ago

on one hand, fuck Mozilla's enshitifiation.

on the other hand, this is a pro for custom ROM users. you get the AI automatically stripped out.

[-] logging_strict@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

it's almost like firefox wants everyone to migrate over to waterfox, librewolf, or mullvad-browser

[-] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Mullvad isn't on Android. I checked when I started using the VPN. Literally irrelevant to this discussion.

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Last I checked, LibreWolf also wasn't on Android. I use IronFox on e/OS

(I bought a Fairphone 4 through Murena a few years back as my first foray into custom ROMs. Still debating what I will do for my next phone when the time finally comes. I do not need to be told about the concerns about Murena, that is already factored into my indecisiveness about my next phone.)

[-] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

This is first time hearing about IronFox. Is it a distinct browser or just a repackaging of Firefox?

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's another Firefox fork (well, based on a Mull fork, which is from Firefox), similar to LibreWolf. No AI, similar built-in security and privacy features. You can find the repository and install instructions here: https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox

[-] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

What was the issue with mullvad-browser that it required a fork? Did they lose it at some point?

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Mull browser, not Mullvad; the Mull browser project was discontinued, hence why IronFox picked it up. I actually don't know if the Mullvad browser is also a Mull fork; the name would suggest a connection, but I can't see it mentioned anywhere in a quick search of their site.

[-] logging_strict@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

What i'm learning about these firefox derivatives is they are just applying some patches, putting lipstick on that pig, and calling it something else. So might be time to just list the patches and compare which patches we like. Like trading baseball cards or cheering our favorite team (patch).

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