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[–] Rothe@piefed.social 69 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

The country which is basically just a "gasoline station with an army" needs to import gasoline. That is pretty funny. Also funny that Trumps Iran disaster and the high fuel prices caused by it, is now going to affect Putin negatively.

He is probably not too happy about Trump for once.

Laugh of the day indeed.

[–] Swemg@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They been importing the army too ^^

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 weeks ago

Exporting sunflower fertilizer to Ukraine

[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If their main export is gas then how long until they run out of money?

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It depends entirely on how long people are willing to lend to the Russian government. People will continue to lend as long as they think there is a reasonable chance of making a return. Also "lending" can in some sense mean "working for free".

A government doesn't need money; it only needs to remain the government. To do that, it needs to prevent an uprising that overthrows it. To do that, it needs the people to be happy and/or fearful enough to not rise up. Happiness requires adequate supply of the essentials of life. Fear requires a force of loyalists equipped to suppress the rest of the population, which requires those loyalists to be adequately supplied.

Supplies require people working to produce those supplies - be it farmers harvesting food, actors making TV programs, or people operating machinery to refine oil.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also "lending" can in some sense mean "working for free".

I don't think it's an expectation of future return that has them doing that, rather an expectation that doing so well lead to intangible yet real protection.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 3 weeks ago

It all comes down to confidence though

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Impossible to say. I remember i read some article in 2021 that russia cannot keep up the fight for more than 6 weeks or their economy would fall apart, yet here we are.

I mean their economy kind of did

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Depends on how much Putin will be able to squeeze out of all the oligarchs.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Even better, neither of them is likely happy with Netanyahu (almost literally) torpedoing the peace process

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago

He is probably not too happy about Trump for once.

Unfortunately, on Trump's side, that happened purely accidentially.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

The two Great Dictators of our time are quickly making a mockery out of themselves, and, by extension, their own country.

[–] lokalhorst@feddit.org 28 points 3 weeks ago

Haahahahaahahahahahahahahahhaahahhahaha

Excuse me, I could not control myself.

[–] RedstoneValley@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Or, hear me out, crazy idea: You could just stop attacking Ukraine and all of this will go away.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Great suggestion, but way too crazy for Putin

[–] Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

And the AfD wants to import Gas and Oil from them. Can I at least get exterminated by fascists with half a functioning brain?

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

No, that is like asking for a working bicycle except without wheels, it is no longer a working bicycle.

[–] illi@piefed.social 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

My understanding is that Russia unfortunately still has plenty of oil - they are short on refineries to turn it into gasoline.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

They need to transport the oil though and that is difficult, when ports and pump stations are burning...

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Last week, Reuters cited industry sources as saying that Russia was discussing importing 50,000 metric tons of AI-92 grade gasoline from Kazakhstan.

As far as i know, AI-92 is some low grade, high emission fuel that has been outlawed in europe since 1996 or 2000. And because cleaner fuels have been available for 30 years, modern and computerized petrol engines with a fine tuned catalytic converter that have been sold in the EU won't be able to run on AI-92 without causing some expensive problems. Saw some videos where russians complained that their dashboards light up like a Christmas tree and the engine stalled repeatedly after they managed to get any kind of fuel for their cars.

The other disaster waiting to happen is a food shortage, because you cannot seed, fertilize or harvest without fertilizer or diesel for all the machines, or trucks to distribute it.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

The other disaster waiting to happen is a food shortage, because you cannot seed, fertilize or harvest without fertilizer or diesel for all the machines, or trucks to distribute it.

A lot of Russians actually grow some food themself. For the rural population it is pretty simple and the city dwellers often have access to dachas. However going to them might be a problem...

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

modern and computerized petrol engines with a fine tuned catalytic converter that have been sold in the EU won't be able to run on AI-92 without causing some expensive problems.

No worries, they don't have many of those left anyway.