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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 35 points 2 months ago
[-] Tja@programming.dev 21 points 2 months ago

Those a fighting word~~s~~

[-] shrugs@piefed.social 12 points 2 months ago

here you go: systemd is so much better then sysv-init, it's not even funny

I really can't take people serious that think sysv-init was the superior system. I mean for real, have you ever worked with it and all it's shortcomings? It wasnt even a system, it was a bunch of bad init scripts

[-] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago

It was a bunch of bad init scripts, but it was our bunch of bad init scripts.

[-] terabyterex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

i started my professional software development career in 1999. the amount of older guys who called the web stupid and a fad or "gopher is the future of the internet" was crazy. people hate change

[-] sage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Nobody argued that sysv was better.

Just that there are other options, apart from systemd.

[-] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

And yet you refuse to give examples...

[-] sage@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I use OpenRC on my desktop.

I've been using it since I started using Linux 26 years ago until Ubuntu switched to upstart and then systemD.

It did the job and was very easy to work with. I knew what the scripts did and I could write my own. And it didn't ask for a date of birth either.

[-] shrugs@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

funny, I also started around 2000 with Linux, so we have the same time under our belt. I remember doing manually dependency resolving downloading packages from freshmeat.net

Let's be honest, I hated that "/etc/init.d/apache2 start" went obsolete, muscle memory and habit are a bitch, but you have to move on sometimes. Otherwise, are you really arguing that some obscure start-stop-daemon wrapper that sometimes worked and sometimes didn't, because they were created for suse not redhat were superior?

systemd monitors the daemons, can show you used cpu time, can start daemons depending of if the system is connected to ac or uses battery or if a port got a magic package, it know which resources a service needs and much more, all without needing to manually write scripts. Do we really compare that to some scripts with bullshittery like:

case $1 in
  start):
    start-stop-daemon $service_name
    ;;
  *)
   echo fuck off
   exit 1
   ;;

sorry to be so blunt, and im pretty drunk saying this: sherly you can't be serious, and don't call me sherly.

[-] neighborhoodnerd21@mastodon.social 0 points 2 months ago

@shrugs @ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace people don't like change. I almost had a nervous breakdown when gnome switched to gnome shell, still hate using it. better or worse I personally like systemd. You can use it or don't but change means progress. systems are more complex than they were 20 years ago and systemd gives me one place to manage everything

funny, I also started around 2000 with Linux, so we have the same time under our belt. I remember doing manually dependency resolving downloading packages from freshmeat.net

Good times lol!

Let’s be honest, I hated that “/etc/init.d/apache2 start” went obsolete, muscle memory and habit are a bitch, but you have to move on sometimes. Otherwise, are you really arguing that some obscure start-stop-daemon wrapper that sometimes worked and sometimes didn’t, because they were created for suse not redhat were superior?

systemd monitors the daemons, can show you used cpu time, can start daemons depending of if the system is connected to ac or uses battery or if a port got a magic package, it know which resources a service needs and much more, all without needing to manually write scripts. Do we really compare that to some scripts with bullshittery like:

Oh no doubt that SystemD has its uses and it has great features. It's great for a corporate Linux used in business servers and the like. But in a time where every OS is spying on people with so called telemetry and are being controlled by policies enacted by politicians bought by lobbies of large corporations who just want to know every fine detail of our lives to sell us shit and open our data to governments for surveillance, you can bet your ass that I want an open box with scripts that I can read so I know what they do.

And the sheer fact that SystemD was undemocratically pushed down everyone's throat against the will of the people on the committees that steer the decisions for the distros in question is huge fucking red flag. It sticks of political overreach.

Pardon my French.

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[-] cymor@midwest.social 24 points 2 months ago
[-] 30p87@feddit.org 24 points 2 months ago

openssh

and on the opposite side, nvidia drivers

[-] nyan_kas@piefed.social 19 points 2 months ago

Proton.

It allowed me to ditch Windows for good. Playing games on Linux, often with similar or even better performance than on Windows, was an insane idea ten or fifteen years ago. Nowadays it‘s rare to see a game not working on day one. And if it doesn‘t, Proton‘s devs oftentimes fix it within a day or two. It‘s an amazing piece of software with an amazing team behind it.

[-] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Proton is a god damn godsend. After wrangling four or five WINE tools for a decade, this is a beautiful innovation. Genuinely, made switching away from Windows viable.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 19 points 2 months ago
[-] cadekat@pawb.social 16 points 2 months ago

less is an unsung hero.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago
[-] orvorn@slrpnk.net 13 points 2 months ago
[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Does "Linux" itself count? I can't even remember the last time I had anything running Linux have a system crash.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

OH! tmux obviously. It's rock solid.

[-] SinTan1729@programming.dev 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

neovim

It just feels right. It took me some time to get used to the vim motions. But man, does it make moving around any project so fast and natural. I went in for the customizability. And that's obviously there. But the sheer speed it gives me is uncanny. My past self with VS Code could never.

I'd also suggest taking some time to write your own config from scratch once you get the hang of it; it'll be worth it.

Neovim's amazing ngl. Replaced MS Code with it at work and I couldn't be happier.

[-] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

ffmpeg and rsync are heavy candidates for me

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

KDE Connect was worth switching away from Mint for. I was blown away. All of this stuff that just works!

[-] dismay3915@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Now that I think about it, most of it.

Neovim, curl, ffmpeg, all gnu utils, sioyek (pdf viewer), i3wm, autorandr, alacritty, tmux and so on.

[-] heliotrope@retrofed.com 3 points 2 months ago

GNU nano.

I don't know why I bothered using Vim, Neovim, Micro, mg, and JOE for so long, when nano was always there (though not necessarily OOTB), configurable with all of the features I used in the other editors, and has never broken as long as I've been using it.

The only editor I may leave it for would be Emacs, and that would be more for the extension scripts and an excuse to learn ELisp than anything else.

[-] cymor@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago
[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

foot has been pretty solid for me. No complaints.

[-] hosaka@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

xbps as of recent

[-] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago
[-] UpperBroccoli@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago
[-] tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org 1 points 2 months ago
[-] JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

mpd+ncmpcpp

df -h for a bit of existential dread.

[-] Damage@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 months ago
[-] fum@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[-] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago
[-] brb@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

bolt launcher

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