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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Not all Republicans are old.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 28 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, there are several new generations of fascists ready to take over when the old ones die off, with exactly the same opinions and goals. It is not an age thing, it is a class thing, but oligarch mouthpieces love to spout this particular brand of obfuscation as part of their propaganda, because it seems to be really succesful strategy.

[–] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

And not all old people are conservative.

This isn't an old person problem; this is an asshole problem.

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 48 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Billionaires are ruining it. Don't let the NYT shift the blame.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The boomers that vote for far right grifters and are happy to pull up the ladder behind themselves certainly deserve a share of the blame too.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Nearly half of boomers have no retirement savings. Blame them all you want, but the problem is the rich. Always has been. Always will be.

[–] femtek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The population that voted for them even though it hurts them are still at fault, even if they didn't write the billionaire backed legislation.

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Well I can tell you for sure it wasn't only boomers that voted for them.

I'm just trying to emphasize that this is a class war, not a generational war.

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[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Most boomers gleefully enabled the system.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

Not all boomers. Sorry, blaming "boomers" is rather naive.

I've been around long enough to remember boomers blaming all the things on Silent/Greatest Generation. They had all the answers and could not wait to take over.

Just sayin' - I'm starting to see a pattern here.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago (26 children)

The problem with boomers, though, is that they formed such a large voting block that their generation has been able to steer the political system in the US. We started seeing change in the 90s and it was gaining momentum in the early 00s, but the reactionaries went full tilt on fascism as a result.

This is a gross oversimllified take so please don't think it's meant as any kind of scholarly dissertation.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Does NY Times want to distract us from having class solidarity?

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

No. Voter apathy, arrogance and virtue signalling transcends age and gender.

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

They have you focused on old people so you are distracted from the fact that capitalism is the problem

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the answer. The fad (psyop?) of blaming "boomers" for all the world's ills is annoying AF.

[–] almost_genocide@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My bad. Who votes for these senators, members of congress and presidential candidates in the primaries?

[–] SaltyAmerican@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

Anymore over the age of 18

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[–] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

Yes.

We need to set limits for the age of our politicians. These people are too old and frail to lead.

One day they’re cheating the stock market with insider trading and the next they’re falling down and getting gravely injured.

Or they disappear into a nursing home because of their advanced dementia, or they just turn the capitol into their nursing home, like Feinstein.

Or they’re taking up space on some panel despite their aggressive cancer diagnosis, only to die and delay government hearings.

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[–] fira@lemmy.today 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s a funny way to spell “sociopathic rich bastards”

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

sociopathic rich bastards

I mean they are generally old too, it's just not their defining characteristic.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, most of them have kids and grandkids, so that money is going to end up in the hands of the young in any case. And they were raised by sociopaths, so the chances that they will be as well is non-zero...

In any case, when outlets like the NYT do things like this, they know that they are using a red herring....let's get some inter-generational froth going and people won't notice who is making off with all the money and power...

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago

There's some truth to the inter-generational conflict. A lot of the boomers and early Gen X were granted limited access to the tools of the owner class (eg. "Reverse Mortgages" are really just a tiny version of the same equity financing the ultra-rich use to access their wealth without sacrificing control of their companies or paying taxes). They've socially conditioned and co-opted a lot of our elders into protecting their interests for them, however you are correct that it's more of an attempt to obfuscate the real threat (the sociopathic rich bastards) and keep us fighting with each other rather than organizing against them.

[–] decolo@piefed.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (12 children)

No war but class war, brother

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah. It's capitalism and social engineering by the powers that be. That shit is divisive as fuck. The old will be dead soon enough, but that 1% at the top bullshit has gone on for a very long time already. Decades, generations.

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 18 points 3 weeks ago

We don't get a choice

As long as what you want is what the economic elites want, it happens.

The correlative factor between what the regular people want and what ends up happening is 0.05. elites are 0.78. business interests are 0.48

If you want to see change become an oligarch, and if not join a business lobbyist group. If you can't do either you're SOL.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's not about age, it's about corruption. Old politicians have had more time to make deals, forge alliances, and prove themselves useful to money.

One way to mitigate this is term limits for Congress. Force them out before they can do too much damage, before they can entrench themselves, and gain the support of some billionaire. Less reason to throw millions at a candidate if they'll be gone in eight years.

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Old people are ruining democracy everywhere.

They created a system to ensure they have comfortable pensions and now our lives are getting more expensive and more difficult because we have to fund their retirement plans and that's why they refuse to step down because they know they are screwed if we take control and start prioritising OUR generation and future generations so shit like this never happens again, wishful thinking... we're fucked either way...

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[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem is really simple to solve.

Politicians represent old people because old people vote. Young people always want to break the system and make a new one, but old people know how to use the existing system to get what they want. .

Young people have all the power they need to be heard, but they just don't take it. They think voting changes nothing, but they don't realize it changes everything.

If young people voted, politicians would be forced to take their issues seriously.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Young people always want to break the system and make a new one, but old people know how to use the existing system to get what they want

yeah no. most young people I know dont know jack shit about politics. they're purely consumers who use TikTok, buy Starbucks and shop on Amazon. Theres nothing breaking the system about them. They don't vote because of lobbyists who make sure they aren't represented. When they feel represented they vote.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Hot take- people are stupid if theyre just waiting for someone to show up and represent them. No excuse for not doing your civic duty, let alone attempting to fix something that will make your life better.

Like a dog- you don't just expect it to do tricks. You have to teach it.

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The generation that was raised on prioritizing short term solutions because the constant threat of nuclear war made any long term planning seem hopeless is ruining the USA???

[–] normalentrance@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 weeks ago

Money is, for sure.

It's been ruined for a long time, big money interests has always had a stranglehold on it. That tends to be older people sure but not all of them are beyond 30 either.

[–] the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

No, the low IQ wing nuts who make up at least 50% of the population who allow people like Trump to become president. They literally ruin anything good we could have a society 😒

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