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[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 92 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Reminder to everyone that Discord is pushing out ID Verification any day now, and is already selling all the data and discussions on its platform to fascist surveillance company Palantir, most well known for recent AI-Powered Civillian tracking system "Flock Cams", owned and operated by Billionaire Peter Theil who helped reelect Donald Trump.

That's why I moved to Stoat and at some point in the future plan to self-host.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I have a hosted Matrix serving sitting around for this reason. Trying to get folks to use it is another story 😒

[–] UnpledgedCatnapTipper@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm hoping that Fluxer will be an easier option for my friends once the mobile apps are a bit more polished. I tried to get them to Matrix, but the experience just wasn't quite smooth enough.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it's rather jarring for those coming from discord. For us old goats it's a bit more palatable, kind of like IRC+++. But we aren't the median user.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'm a bit worried about Matrix + Element because of some supposed ties to Israeli Intelligence organizations.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 5 points 3 weeks ago

Oh? I’ll have to look into that. That’s enough for me to consider something else altogether.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, the day ID verification is rolled out discord will see a huge drop in numbers. Maybe not enough to end discord, but enough that they won't have the revenue or data sets to sell anymore.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

I wish stoat consistently worked for me, it didn't so I switched to matrix

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[–] this@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks for the reminder, I needed to put my stoat and fluxer info on my discord profile.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

does stoat have audio notifications yet? 6 months ago when I tried it that was my dealbreaker.

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[–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago

What is Discord? /s

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 77 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 46 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Ah yes. Because I made my 10 year old discord account when I was 5. You got me guys.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 16 points 3 weeks ago

Most of the age verification laws are written fairly openly, probably so the verification companies can come up with all sorts of crazy anti-privacy shit.

However that also means some companies have done the opposite. They can use other methods of verifying age, like common sense. Your 10 year old account alone is enough to reasonably expect you to be over 18 for instance, you probably weren't under 8 when you made that account.

Most aren't going to bother with that though, it's simpler and easier for them to have a third party violate your privacy.

[–] ivan@piefed.social 31 points 3 weeks ago

Once had a scammer tryna catfish me in a similar way.

Some time into conversation other person randomly mentions "by the way, I do webcams, you can see here [website]... and yeah, it will ask for credit card data - but it's just to keep kiddies out". 🌝

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would rather jack off with my mind and meet people IRL if this idiocy continues.

At some point there's an endpoint to enshitification, at which people say FU I am going to live in the forest now. I am pretty close.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 3 points 3 weeks ago

I’m there if it wasn't for fucking property tax.

[–] helloyanis@furries.club 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

@Gonzako Shameless plug, I made an extension to try and bypass this on some sites! Free and open source too.

https://github.com/helloyanis/age-verification-bypass

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I don't mind this kinda talk cuz it's open source and you don't wanna go rent-seeking

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 12 points 3 weeks ago

I can't wait to read the explosion of breathless media reports and "expert" commentary discussing the sudden spate of compromised ID systems and the subsequent finger pointing between politicians blaming each other for this entirely foreseeable outcome while the professionals who kept raising concerns have their uncredited "I told you so" moment.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Now when we apply to jobs in the US, we have to agree to a privacy policy that says we agree to phone spam when they share our data to third parties.

I hate everything about this timeline.

They're just open about it now. For 10+ years I always noticed how my telemarketing phone calls would go up almost immediately after I applied for a couple jobs.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Spam calls increased 10 fold when I started applying.

Some jobs ask for your social before you can even submit.

I hate it too.

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[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would be less concerned (still not buying it, but...) if pedophiles we already know about were prosecuted. How about putting them in jail before looking for more ways to protect children? What about the rest of Epsteins pedo ring? Are we supposed to think that was just the work of two people?

I'm all for protecting children, but we could do so much more even without sacrificing privacy.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

They never cared about children or the victims or anything they cannot use politically.

Here in the EU they are again trying to have client side scanning called chat control. They said it's against pedos, it's absolutely not.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

the epstein pedo ring is rich people. they are immune from prosecution, no matter the crime. they are not even really into children, they just fuck them because they can and there is shit you or anyone can do about it.

the only pedos who get prosecuted and are considered criminal, are regular ones without money or connections. because they want to fuck kids out of legit compulsion rather than as a 'fuck you' to society.

[–] mangobanana@discuss.online 9 points 3 weeks ago

I was so enraged when I went to go log into the retirement system website (state employee) and I had to sign up for fucking id.me to log in. Ridiculous bullshit. WHY? Who the fuck is going to log on and look at my retirement statement? Not like I can actually retire any time soon with no health insurance fuckers

[–] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 6 points 3 weeks ago

I have to upload my passport page to get my autism assessment and I still haven't done it and I don't want to, but I've been trying to get this assessment on and off for years :(

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

I can't wait for the day the whole wide world holds a class action suit to get some of their "ID" money back. "A" sells to "B" sells to "C"...where is my cut?

[–] RogueJello@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I don't want to protect my children. CHECKMATE TECHBROS!!!!!!

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