This would be about the only good thing Republicans have done ever if they pass this. Hope they don't let states opt out. When I lived up north by Canada, the logic was "you don't want kids having to walk to/from school when it's dark!!" Okay, so... wow, did you know they could change school hours.
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When I lived up north by Canada, the logic was "you don't want kids having to walk to/from school when it's dark!!" Okay, so... wow, did you know they could change school hours.
The same argument works the other way. Keep noon as the point where the sun is highest. Then change the times of things for appropriate daylight. Daylight savings is just people agreeing to get up an hour earlier. Instead of "9 to 5", everyone agrees to work 8 to 4. Which coincidentally puts solar noon perfectly in the middle of the work day. Isn't that a surprise!
Well, we're also in the 21st century and this jump an hour twice a year shit makes no sense. We could make timekeeping worldwide way more insane by having it adjust "imperceptibly" over time to auto adjust times worldwide based on true solar noon at each individual clock location using GPS. So all clocks would now have GPS as well to be able to ping their location to get the appropriate time. This... would be insane. We'd have seconds that are longer than a second. LET'S DO IT.
This is my vote. If we're going to mess with the clocks, let's REALLY mess with them. I guess not messing with them would also be okay, though.
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I get confused, but what I prefer based on living far north is for evenings to be longer. It seems wrong to me when winter approaches and the sun starts going down around 6-7, then bam, the time change happens and the sun starts going down at 5. It's the exact opposite of what I'd prefer. I guess people active in the early morning like it. Ultimately I just think it's dumb to change the clocks. We should just pick one or the other.
Everyone agrees to stop changing. The only contention is how. Stay on DST, or stay on Standard Time. Lots of people say like you, "More daylight in the evening please!" But they don't realise all DST does is trick people into getting up early by lying to them, and breaking noon from the sun. Staying on standard time keeps the time sun connection. Then the "standard work day" can be changed to the more appropriate 8 to 4. You get the same effect as DST without lies, tricks, and changing solar noon. It's cleaner than permanent DST.
We live in time zones. “Standard” time is just as much a fiction as DST. I’ve never lived somewhere where the sun is directly overhead at noon. I suppose such places must exist; some of them might even be on standard time when it does. In my area, it’s closer to directly overhead during DST.
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People have a weird fixation on the inherent meaning of certain times of day. Like 9:00 a.m. is ontologically when work begins. It's strange.
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Also school: let's start activities at 6 AM in winter. And not finish until 10PM. No the bus only runs for school hours why do you ask?
School hours are engineered to make sure parents can drop their kids off at the state-funded daycare (which is what most parents consider school) and get to work on time...
And the reason the high-school kids get out first is so they can take care of younger siblings after school, which is a shitty way for teenagers to spend afternoons. (I was lucky, youngest of six.)
I don't know, we tried it in the 70s and people hated it enough to switch back pretty quickly. Under permanent DST, sunrise in January would not be until after 8 AM, while under permanent standard time sunrise in June would be shortly after 4 AM.
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change the school hours for the shifting daylight hours, you'd also have to change parents' work schedules.. or provide some child care benefits, maybe. and we know how that would go over with this congress and administration.
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SHUT THE FUCK UP! OKAY? They vote on this every fucking year and it dies in the Senate. Big Clock is going to lobby this shit until I die. Just shut up. Stop talking about it. Daylight Savings will be in the USA for at least another hundred years.
^^^^ Legitimately one of the funniest things I've read in a long time.
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I didn't even say anything!
Dude, what did he say?! Shut up!
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Why not standard time?
It's, like, THE STANDARD
Yeah, no clue why everyone's going DST instead. I think having politicians make science decisions is a really dumb idea.
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Trump just fired the federal election commission and fucks kids. Epstien files.
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"Allow states to opt out?" Isn't this already something under their control? How is this a federally mandated thing? I mean Arizona already doesn't do it.
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if its a federal decision just make the change apply everywhere. No one wants every state doing this differently. Think of the poor programmers.
On your first question: the current law is that DST is optional, but if a state opts out, they have to be on standard time. The new bill allows them to stay on DST permanently and removes the ability for states to opt-out unless they are already on year-round standard time. So, if this passes, every state in the union will be on either standard time or DST, depending on their status before, with no option to either go back to standard time nor to go back to changing twice a year.
The answer is simple.
The government shouldn't be telling us what time it is. We should leave that to the private sector. And you should be required to pay for a subscription to know what time it is.
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Standard time is better for health, and much less stupid to have the clock synced to the day cycle
I assume you don't live somewhere where it gets dark at 3pm in winter. The morning will be dark regardless, let me have that little bit of sun coming home from work
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Agreed. After living most of my life in the PNW, having summer twilight as late as 10 PM was terrible.
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Boo, the permanent time should be standard time, it's standard for a good reason.
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Standard Time should be the default. And sadly, we don't even have that. Even our Standard Time has been mucked with. This website is a good source (not mine by the way). https://savestandardtime.com/ Let businesses change their hours instead of making people change clocks.
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Of the two options they could have standardized on they picked the worst one. This literally defeats the point of noon
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As someone who works too damn early, please let's be sensible and do permanent standard time.
I'm sorry Canada, you're usually right, but you're wrong about this
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Who even fucking cares anymore? How about demanding proof of life from the Senate Majority Leader? Stop wasting your breath on this bullshit.
Getting rid of this and getting the u.s. to finally do to metric are my two low bar societal dreams before I die
getting the u.s. to finally do to metric
Well, depending on how you measure that, the metric system was adopted in the US federally either 50 or 35 years ago...
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I'm too lazy to find my years old comment on this but they didn't vote on it because they pocketed it to use as a rider base or ticket.
There is literally no opposition, they wanted to use it to pass other bills or measures at the same time because it has complete bipartisan support.
Congress sucks ass.
This is just a half measure. They need to fix the tilt of the Earth for a real solution to this problem.
Why not just move school and work start times an hour or two later in the winter in Colorado then? Why hold the entire country hostage because of niche locations that already have the ability to make local decisions like this?
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Ending the clock change is a great idea. The question becomes, do we want to:
Go the permanent daylight saving route. Be an hour off from the rest of the world adding to the stack of weird and arguably stupid things the USA does different so we can have a bit of light after work instead of questioning why we're working our lives away. Also, drastically increase the number of morning injuries and fatalities, especially among children, as schools will be starting in the dark.
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Be sane.
It appears Congress has spoken.
Because of existing time zones aren’t we already different from the rest of the world? You make other good points but the rest of the world comparison seems odd. If anything just picking one is more consistent and safer regardless. I mean if you wanna talk about weird, the entire mainland china is one time zone, China Standard Time.
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I love living in one of the 2 states that DON'T change time . I absolutely hated it and always thought it was stupid all the back and forth it's only an hour, just leave it at one time (honestly I don't care which). I used to live in the Midwest and the time change was the bane of my existence
Should split the difference and go with a permanent 30 minute offset just to screw with everybody.
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