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[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 47 points 1 month ago

Don't tempt me with a good time.

[-] bowreality@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Right? If Apple would do that to me I’ll drop them like a hot potato

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 month ago

Sounds ok to me, it's usually very hard to get data like that deleted. Best to not let them get it in the first place.

[-] plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I have a Samsung phone and I take great pleasure in ignoring the weekly reminders that I still haven't agreed to their latest privacy policy (or any previous version since the very first one which I was forced to accept while setting up the phone). Refusing to do this probably doesn't accomplish anything, but it's my own private act of rebellion while I eagerly await those new Motorola phones with first-party Graphene OS support.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 29 points 1 month ago

Awesome. Samsung shouldn't have anyone's health data.

[-] Polaris@jlai.lu 22 points 1 month ago

Why would Samsung have my health data ???

[-] IndianaJones@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago

They have an app, called 'Samsung Health', that allows you to see/record how many steps you did, how you slept etc etc

Smart watches.

[-] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 8 points 1 month ago

afaik you can sync data from a samsung smartwatch and let it analyze stuff

[-] Melobol@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

I believe currently the health app is the only way to use galaxy watch gen 4+.
Just checked and couldn't find any other way.

[-] SteleTrovilo@beehaw.org 20 points 1 month ago

So I can tell them to not use my data, and they'll also delete it as a bonus?

Now I wish I'd ever given them any health data, just so I could do this.

[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 7 points 1 month ago

Probably they'll keep it, they'll just delete your access to it.

[-] Flying_Lynx@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

>The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details. The company also said that humans (maybe Samsung employees and third-party contractors) will be able to review some of the data collected.

For your own sake... let them*

^* delete the data that is.^

[-] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 9 points 1 month ago

Just curiosity. How the hell is US medical system set up that it's even possible for a company thats not in any way related to health have acess to medical history and meds?

Like my countries medical system is fully digitized, but there isn't even a way for a random company to acess this information.

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 6 points 1 month ago

A lot of this is info from smart watches, etc.

[-] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago

Fair, heart rate, weight and height would be considered as medical records. But meds? How can it figure that out if i don't specifically tell it?

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 5 points 1 month ago

It can't. But they give you a space in the app for you to tell it.

[-] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 2 points 1 month ago

That makes sense, thank you for elaborating.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 month ago

How would Samsung get my health data in the first place?

[-] northernlights@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago
[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Why would you voluntarily give a company access to you health data, and not expect it to be abused ten times to sunday? They haven't even secured it properly, so perhaps your health records are being traded on a data black market.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I had a Samsung smart watch, and it was honestly hard to use without an account. Half the features are locked behind signing in. I stopped using it when weather updates stopped working without logging in.
Now I have a dumb mechanical watch, and it's glorious.

[-] Art3mis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Love my dumb watch. Had to get a new smartwatch every 3 years or so due to planned obselesence. Spent the same amount on a pretty citizen and have had it for over 5 years. Hasnt even noticably lost time

[-] filcuk@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago

Same, but I've sidegraded to Pebble, which stores the data on my phone.

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Indirect corporate sympathizing is what this is.

Blame consumers for the abuse and malpractice of corporations who SHOULD be publicly regulated.

This viewpoint encourages their practices by peddling the same logic these corporations use to continue justifying their practices.

[-] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The logic is just silly. They know exactly why: telemetry is a first class feature in just about any digital consumer based product. We live in a culture defined by consumerism. Social class is defined by what you can consume. Success is defined by your ability to consume more. You gotta have the fancy car, the nice shoes, the biggest house and the best suit.

Caring about telemetry, what information can be inferred from what data, and what information poses what risks in which entities hands… that line of thinking isn’t popular. Blindly consuming is popular. Showing off your cool new watch is popular.

The result is that Samsung has health data. This is right in our faces. There are no secrets, no hard puzzles, nothing of that sort. Seeds planted, and now people wonder why they have a bean staulk? Golly.

[-] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You're believing in the tooth fairy. We live in corporatism as a political system, with a nearly complete regulatory capture. As a consumer, you are completely screwed. So do not use proprietary services and products. If you call this corporate sympathizing I wonder what you'd call corporate criticism.

[-] CptOblivius@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

One just never hears anything good about Samsung anymore.

[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

What? This is great news.

[-] alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

Use gadget bridge ! It's an open source app. Your data stay on the phone !

https://gadgetbridge.org/

https://f-droid.org/packages/nodomain.freeyourgadget.gadgetbridge

[-] freedickpics@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Well at least they're giving people the option. Most other companies just declare they're giving themselves permission to use your data unless you opt-out (meaning if you've lost access to the account you've got no way to stop them)

[-] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

If you're not paying for it, you're the product.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 month ago

This isn't that. People are paying for devices with promised feature sets that have now had their terms changed.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

When I looked into it, the health related smartwatch features that were sold specifically said that they required you to use use, and agree to the terms of service (which says they can cancel the service at any time) of, their specific apps or devices and that the data provided to these services were theirs to do with as they please.

I thought that was a terrible deal so I didn't buy one.

There are smartwatches that let you keep your data, but they require a lot more work to use.

[-] TechLich@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Pebble are pretty good.

They don't require any work to use, have a battery life measured in weeks, not hours, keep all your health data local unless you very specifically set it up to send it to a health app, and are open source and reasonably priced.

Not an advertisement. It's still a US company, but compared with something like a Samsung thing they're pretty cool.

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