this post was submitted on 02 Dec 2023
213 points (96.5% liked)

News

23397 readers
3639 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] khannie@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Right before the whole country wakes up and laughs at the notion, let me just get this out of the way.... Nobody here gives a fuck what Bannon and his ilk want.

The recent riots started with the stabbing of children followed by some mentalers riling up a tiny number of agitators. At the scene folks were understandably very upset but it was a Brazilian who stopped the attack (bless his soul) and a heap of money has been raised for him.

What then happened was a bunch of scumbags jumping on the bandwagon so they could rob new Nikes from Foot Locker and cause a bit of mayhem. That's it.

The political spectrum here really runs from left to centre right (and by that I mean around the democrats in the US). There is no right spectrum party.

So... Anyone calling for civil war here can fuck right off tbh. Absolute nonsense of the highest order.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It kind of pisses me off that the article doesn't mention the Brazilian person.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah what an absolute champ he was. Fast and decisive.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm pretty sure Ireland still remembers what a civil war is like, and nobody who knows wants one. Bannon and the American right wouldn't know Troubles if they came up and bit them in the face.

[–] GombeenSysadmin@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

Succinct and entirely correct. All Irish “conservatives” want is farm subsidies and no inheritance tax

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Some people in Ireland obviously do. Thankfully, it appears to be a tiny minority.

The problem is really the same as the right wing loonies in other countries: they are using modern media, perhaps with the assistance of foreign agents, to amplify what they are saying and make the movement seem larger than it really is.

Then loonies get a lot of disgruntled people to sign on to single parts of their agenda. When you're struggling to get by, it's a lot easier to support someone who claims to have easy answers, even if those answers are designed to never be achieved. These loonies will always have out-groups they want to ostracized, and some people may go along, not realizing that they may be next. (And not realizing that the total Nazi-lite agenda doesn't include the plebs at all, other than to get them to vote against their interests.)

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Okay, Ireland will do a civil war if America's far right can find it on a map without Googling.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's, like off the coast of Perth, right?

(/s)

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's outside of Cleveland right?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cleaveland, Ontario? sure!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] assembly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Dude I think they can find Canada just fine so shouldn’t be hard to find the island off the coast of Canada…was it the left or right side?

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

To be fair, it is an island off the right side of Canada…. by a couple thousand miles.

[–] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To the left. You can see it and Russia at the same time.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oh, so it's right outside Sarah Palin's house!

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Hint: look for the green part

[–] mo_ztt@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was going to type this as a joke, but on reflection I think it's 100% unironically true:

The only reason they care is because Ireland's right-wing hooligans are actually willing to physically mob up and attack immigrants and police, whereas a lot of the right wing in the US is too skeered to get into the streets and do the same un-stochastically ever since Ashli Babbit. They wish their followers here would do the same and can't wait for it to start to happen.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most of the American right is afraid to travel to any large city without a gun.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would be a big problem if they travelled.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branson,_Missouri

The redneck version of Las Vegas. Lots of G-rated entertainment with shows that don't run past 9 pm.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pops can't leave loaded gun to go to his bathroom.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love chatting with 2As online. They all swear that they are responsible gun owners who keep their weapons locked up, and go to the range to keep up their skills. They also hate the idea that insane people might be denied guns for any reason.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

That's what makes me sad. I know people in the north that have intense weapons closets for maintaining humidity and security. Meanwhile relatives in the south have loaded guns in the closet next to the umbrella and waving them around the house. So irresponsible.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ireland should do a civil war against America for whatever the hell was going on in that weird parade scene in the Fugitive where they’re all dressed as leprechauns.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Make the Chicago River run red? A very Charlemagnian solution.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Tucker Carlson, who now broadcasts his show on X, told his millions of followers that “the Irish government is trying to replace the population of Ireland with people from the third world.”

Former White House adviser and 2020 election conspiracist Steve Bannon, who is currently strategizing for former US president Donald Trump, responded to Carlson by declaring: “Ireland is a powder keg.”

Elon Musk, who this week told X advertisers to “go fuck yourself,” also weighed in, claiming on X that the Irish prime minister “hates the Irish people,” and agreeing with another far-right influencer who posted on X saying Ireland needed McGregor to run for office. “Not a bad idea,” Musk wrote in reply.

[–] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Isn't Ireland, by definition, a third world country?

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What in hell do they hope to gain from stoking these fires?!

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want Irish conservatives to show U.S. conservatives that it's possible to rise up and kill the normal people and get away with it.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

That was in the very darkest corner of my mind, but I didn't let it out. Jesus. I never thought America would come to this.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

They've based their internal subconscious model of self worth on being anti-left. They're just reactionary regressives.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They're shit stirrers. That's it.

[–] osarusan@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Bunch a cunts.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Since Ireland still hasn’t gotten Northern Ireland back, they’re basically still in a civil war.

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's a weird way to frame things given that a sizable majority of North Irelanders don't want to reunify.

[–] minnow@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't follow that particular but if politics very closely, so I'm genuinely asking: is that still the case post-Brexit?

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Twentytwodividedby7@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, if I'm reading this correctly, the OP is correct in their clain that most NI people do not want to unify

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, they're factual correct in saying that (assuming proper sampling). Also I feel like the international audience who might not be versed in Irish history should appreciate that there's a polarized background to the issue given the colonial history.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Ireland - "You first"

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Can...can they even find Ireland on the map?

load more comments
view more: next ›