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So if this releases after TES 6 I guess I’ll play it with my friends in assisted living?
Right? Like I just turned 48. It's been 15 years since the last elder scrolls. I don't count online bc I don't care about online.
I'll most likely be pushing 65 by the time fallout 5 releases
😭
Look at it this way: you could be the next "Skyrim Grandma"
I feel like there will be quite a competition once millennials hit that age
See you in the home! Maybe there will be a wheelchair magic item in the game as a joke for fans. Like maybe wheelchair mounts?
Man I wish Lemmy had a way to give awards to comments (like old Reddit did), cause this one absolutely deserve it! xD
They took so long to start that all the hype is gone. I've got anti-hype, I fully expect to be disappointed. It's going to suck.
that just means itll surpass expectations of sucking, instead of disappointing hype for not being perfect
Genuinely, like, I know where the money went obviously, but what about the shear amount of time they’ve had to make anything, like what the hell was actually happening in that studio honestly
Endless arguments about a new engine vs even more duct tape on the creation engine. Starfield was a tech demo of their latest updates.
Pretty sure the only reason they're doing it is as a token move for some court order or something. I'm really not interested either. No hype for me thanks. I'd rather have an actual game then the nebulous promise of a game that's going to be disappointing.
Starfield was their last shot for me. They fumbled that.
It's so XBOX's new management doesn't fire Bethesda's management.
I thought fallout 4 was pretty mid, which killed any hype I might've had for 5. Did not like having a backstory forced on my character.
"And the elder scrolls VI is built on the elder scrolls IV engine"
(Probably) Lol
You say that as if Unreal Engine gets a ground-up rewrite for every single version.
Code gets upgraded and adapted over time. And the Creation Engine is no different.
Hooray!
but creation
I'm ecstatic, other engines just aren't moddable like creation, this is GREAT news.
Cool, I'll give this hype train a miss though.
Yeah yeah yeah half life 3 too.
God I hope Half Life 3 ain't being built on the Creation Engine. That would suck.
It'd be really weird if it was.
I mean this should surprise no one after how well the TV show did. Probably not coming till like 2036 and two more rounds of mass layoffs from Xbox.
2036 and two more rounds of mass layoffs from Xbox.
Optimistic to assume only 2 more rounds of layoffs in the next decade, as opposed to next year or two.
What is pre-production? Did they already buy the snacks? Are they just thinking about starting?
Basically they've written the design document for the next game, which is why they can reveal the engine because that's been decided on. It doesn't mean they know the story yet, but they likely have a good general idea, because that would inform the design document.
For example if the game needed jetpacks, but that wasn't an existing engine feature, then they have a plan for jetpacks. And if you NEED jetpacks, you probably know roughly where they're going to be used, so you have some gameplay/story ideas mapped out.
But also a design plan and a finished product are very different things. You might plan for one thing, but create something very different.
So the game is probably still 4-5 years away.
For once I'm glad a game will be using Creation Engine. That's how low Unreal has fallen.
if it's made my Bethesda, i'll pass. If it's made by obsidian count me in.
Is Fallout 5 the same game or a different game to the one allegedly being developed by Obsidian?
Different games, Fallout 5 is developed by Bethesda after TES 6, Obsidian is working on another new Fallout
Assuming this was decided after microslop decided to mass produce the Fallout IP faster and faster, I'd say they're different games.
Mmm... I hoped the IP was transferred from one studio to another. Seems more like a borrowing.
Don't know what Xbox would do if Obsidian ends making a better game and the Bethesda game is overshadowed by it.
What, like how Obsidian made a better Fallout 3 than Fallout 3 with New Vegas?
Yeah, the difference being Fallout 3 was well received and the studio had some pedigree. While Fallout 76 and Starfield were actively disliked.
I’m not sure what happened with 76 since I lost interest upon finding out it was multiplayer, but it’s really well received now when looking at Steam reviews
Yeah, the game is in a better place now. The problem being they shouldn't have released as it was.
Microsoft basically took it from Bethesda and cleared out a bunch of their core staff
The IP might not have been transferred, but Bethesda's product ownership has been revoked. They didn't even let outside teams touch their offshoot projects (like apps), and now the IP is probably going to be milked
Maybe obsidian will do something interesting with it before it inevitably is reduced to slop
Goddamn everyone here is so dismissive or apathetic, it's a little disappointing and sad to see.
I'm not 100% gung-ho about this or anything, but I'm pleasantly unsurprised and I'm gonna start building up a tiny bit of excitement for it.
Like why can't we just be kind of happy or excited that we're gonna get more of what we like? Does everything really have to have some kind of negative connotation these days?
Starfield kinda killed positive views of Bethesda. Fallout 76 shortly before that essentially eliminating most of the good will they had.
Beyond the technical failures inherent to those titles, even more so than the average Bethesda title, the writing, the story, the atmospheric story telling were all just... bad. Not a single glimmer of what made Skyrim or their previous titles great could really be found. Fallout 76 felt like the most obvious and pathetic cash grab in game release history, being practically unplayable for the first six months of its life... which for an online game is ridiculous; and Starfield legitimately felt like what a dev team that were fans of Skyrim might produce. It felt like a third-party rip off of Bethesda's style.
Don't get me wrong both games have their fans, and honestly the hate is overrated as both games are competent, they're just not good. They're just not Bethesda games.
Add onto that the fact it's been 15 years since a significant elder scrolls title was released; because let's face it no one remembers Blades, ESO is its own thing entirely, and I had to actually google 'elder scrolls card game' to remember wtf Legends was called; and you have a recipe for absolute disappointment. Most of the people that worked on Oblivion and Skyrim are gone from the company. The new batch have not made a popular game in that time besides Fallout 4, which is still viewed by half the fallout fan base as the worst fallout game despite Fallout Tactics existing.
The negative outlook is because we aren't likely to get more of what we like. Especially given Todd Howard's obsession with using AI. This is much more likely to be a corpse wearing the skin of a beloved franchise than anything worth playing, all for the low-low price of $80+ USD, if not $100+ USD.
For me it's that I've played loads of games that use Bethesda's tooling and it just ends up feeling pokey and samey to me. They're hamstrung by their technical choices and after all these years I just don't have it in me to get excited about their latest stab at making their wheezing toolchain cough out another needlessly sparse experience.
Given the downward trend from 3 -> 4 (and from 2 -> 3 from what I hear) this is a game that will really need to impress before I consider picking it up.
2 to 3 isn't really a genuine comparison though. They're different genres.
I dont believe you