It's always funny when someone goes "It's so hard to install", like bro, you just press "next, next next, enter your name, finish". Can't get easier than that.
And Windows 10 Pro has more steps than Linux Mint. The argument has been moot for a while, but some folk need a little encouragement to unlearn what's been parroted for decades.
Except for one big thing. Most consumers buy a computer, and windows is already installed. Nothing to install, just an account to set up.
It's a huge step in the right direction when a seller offers Linux preinstalled. Maybe the EU regulators can go after Microsoft, citing "anticompetitive actions", for ensuring every manufacturer include Windows OS. That'll open the gate for forcing options for the consumer
Setting up that account? You wouldn't believe it, more steps than installing linux.
/s (maybe? Usb mint is so intrusive)
Assuming the graphics drivers baked into the installer work in the first go - ask me how my weekend went.
Oh God Linux and drivers man
This is why I swapped my RTX 4070 with my brother for his 7700 XT. He offered me some money on top of it. I told him happy birthday because it matters more to me that it just fucking works instead of requiring a blood sacrifice every six weeks to not boot into a void.
Or, as Linus put it, fuck you NVIDIA.
Edit: No problems at all since I swapped the 7700 into my machine, by the way. Getting GPU drivers on my brother's Win 11 machine was a whole task by itself. Even on Windows, getting NVIDIA drivers to work isn't a painless experience.
Nvidia, not drivers in general. Unless you run Debian and have new gadgets i guess
I know right. I had a right game reinstalling Win 10 on a lenovo netbook - I had to put a supported, unmanaged version on it for installing lenovo dock firmware updates. For some reason, the default graphics mode was totally corrupted - almost unreadable, and rotated 90 degrees. Once the installer had finished, I had to manually install the right driver for the graphics hardware, and that fixed it. Took hours - total amateurs. For shits and giggles, after I'd finished with with the firmware updates, I installed Mint on it - and it was flawless, and done in half an hour. This is the way to do it!
Ey, EY! Do you know how long it took me figure out what a "mount point" is? In that same time, i could have already gone through, like, 20% of the ads of the win-installer!
Yeah but there is a partition manager ๐ฑ
In all fairness, not needing to install an OS is easier.
People get confused if their icons change color, man.
If the icon is not in the same place as before, god help them.
Windows is easier to install because the user didn't install it.
TBF Windows is pretty simple to install. Tracking and other bullshit aside.
I must say, im impressed by windows 11 haveing an update that fucked with the gui shutdown and then next up one that just straight up made it unable to boot
I have a windows 11 machine and i was "mmh, yeah microsoft sucks with update but it has been a while since i updated it...should i?" but now i fear to click that damn button
"How do I get Linux.exe?"
Twice have I helped my friends install linux. Twice have they had bogus usb drives that didn't store the distro properly. (One of them was a 2 cent 2tb drive, the other one was a pendrive he "found on the ground in the street")
found on the ground in the street
Well, where else are you gonna find a wild pendrive?
The one friend probably hasn't heard about USB parkade seeding as a pen test tool.
Yeah, already installed vs. may require some tweaks to get all of your hardware working, is a big one, especially with laptops since there's so much proprietary junk in many of them.
What do you mean "install it?" You install programs ONTO windows. Windows is already installed. It's literally how you buy the computer. Have you ever even used a computer?
Dude, you reinstall windows every1.5-2 years as by that point it has fucked itself into oblivion.
Hilarious that's still a thing. Back in the late 90's and early 00's, I had a buddy that would format and reinstall Windows and all his games and applications religiously, once a month. Seems like something would have done about this after all these years.
I bet there's a strong correlation, at least among we olds, between the number of times one has installed Windows and the likelihood that they are now a Linux user.
That's how we know that Linux is easier to install these days, for one.
I could see it. I wonder if it also depends WHICH windows variants you've installed and how many times. I, for one, have installed windows 98 probably high hundreds of times.
What's a computer?
The last Windows I installed was version 10, it wasn't hard. Neither is installing Linux, maybe it used to be, I've only been using Mint for the past two years, but I don't remember it being hard to install.
Is it easier to install though?
No one really knows. Only a few brave souls have tried, all of whom succumbed to madness shortly thereafter.
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