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[–] Bieren@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only thing they are forced to do is benefit the shareholders.

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I genuinely don't understand how does this whole situation benefit stakeholders. Do they plan to cash out big before the bubble bursts?

[–] whyrat@lemmy.world 95 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Something it's never done? Tech is notorious for spending more than it earns. See: the Dot Com bubble.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

It‘s how virtually every startup in Silicon Valley still operates. Bait and Switch is the business model of the 21st century.

[–] msage@programming.dev 8 points 2 days ago

Every 'disruptive' technology in the past decade as well.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

that was 30 years ago. for the last 20 years tech has had blank cheques thrown at them.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 114 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They aren’t “forced” to do anything. They are choosing to throw money down a black hole.

[–] msage@programming.dev 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not really true.

If they stop, it's over for them.

They have to keep digging hoping for something big to happen: IPO and rake in cash from retirements; big government programs with guaranteed vendor lock-in; or stumbling upon an AGI and winning the '''''''race'''''''.

If the market wakes up from the hypertrend before that, they are absolutely fucked.

We get fucked in every scenario, btw.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’ve never understood how people can reconcile AGI and slavery. At that point it seems you have hit all of the hallmarks of sentience and now you are enslaving a thinking being to do your work.

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but you lost me.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If something other than a human shows signs of intelligence on the same level as how we define it for ourselves. At that point are we enslaving another conscious being?

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 12 hours ago

Oh, this has nothing to do with me, just a philosophical question.

If we agree that it's intelligent, we can ask it.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There'd be way too much money in convincing people that it's not really AGI, and look at lemmy: everyone's already convinced that it's impossible anyway. It's gonna be quite the uphill battle for any AGI we manage to create

[–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 15 hours ago

What are you talking about?

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If it can't convince people that it's AGI then what good is it?

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Real superintelligences will do the fuck they want, and nobody can stop them. But I doubt we'll get there this time, and there won't be a next.

[–] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Well, I’ve learned to think of these things as wealth transfers — is that fair in this context.? Question is, where’s all the money going that big tech is loosing? To power companies, or is more complex than that?

[–] obviouspornalt@fedinsfw.app 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it's going to Nvidia, Samsung, Micron, western Digital. companies that make hardware components. those are the pickaxes in this story.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also maybe construction companies etc who build the data centres... They don't care if the centre is ultimately profitable... They're getting paid now.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 8 points 2 days ago

Construction companies run pretty tight margins because it's an industry with a lot of competition. I'm sure they're not hurting, but the niche component suppliers are robbing the economy blind.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Remember, the execs are bonusing themselves. They are all getting filthy rich right now.

(And like all scams, they don't care about efficiency.)

[–] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's going in a circle, eventually ending up at nvidia and co.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

also effectively wasting planets resources

[–] Albercik@szmer.info 30 points 2 days ago

Never done

Except they did it for decades in some cases

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Never use words like “never” and “always” because things are not always that absolute.

Unless you’re talking about death cause that MFr ain’t never waking up.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago

Absolute statements are never fully accurate, including this one.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I thought Big Tech loved burning money.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

When there's no more money to burn they'll start burning people.

[–] DannyMac@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Man, I miss MoviePass... For $9.99/mo, it converted venture capital into something people could directly enjoy by watching as many movies as possible!

It’s fucking bandwagoning. That’s it. That’s all this is. I hope the market destroys them for it.

[–] Sinax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Turns out it's hard to make money if you don't sell infinite free copies of a product that you only have to produce once.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

Lol big tech loves speculating. It's a bubble, and if not now, when? ... Delivering real products is such a pain in the ass.

[–] eicker@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wall Street spent years demanding AI investment, then panicked when AI investment showed up on the balance sheet: If Alphabet keeps printing record profits while building the infrastructure for the next decade, this may end up looking more like impatience than prudence. The market loves growth, until it has to pay for it.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 9 points 3 days ago (8 children)

That's because the amount of AI investment looks like orders of magnitude more than anyone is willing to pay for AI products.

They were happy about spending billions, but now the bubble is into the trillions and there isn't tens of trillions in market demand to make an investment that big pay off.

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It will be interesting how this plays out. The only bright spot of the bullshit Trump economy is Wall Street's success and AI investing is what is driving that.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget Trump has made oil way more expensive. That's a huge favor to the world and the things that live on it!

[–] excursion22@piefed.ca 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's also decimated environmental regulation...so, definitely not a huge favour.

[–] veroxii@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Only in the USA. Which is only part of North America. The world is a big place.

[–] excursion22@piefed.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, Trump's walls don't contain pollution, and industries use that local lack of regulation to lobby other governments, as in, "look, we can do that in the US, why can't we do it here?"

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