Well, tbh, I would still object to a hidden list, no matter the content. But that's me, I can't speak for the fediverse as a whole in that regard. I don't doubt it would make a difference to some segments of the population here. Hell, I know there's contingents that would be fine with the secrecy side of it in the name of their particular axe to grind.

In his screed about why he made the list, and who/what he put on it/them it's clear he had a specific axe to grind. I'm actually fine with that part. Don't agree with his choices, and I don't think those choices reflect his stated purpose ( come the fuck on, Ada? She's one of the most steady and consistent admins out there, period. And she's regularly pursued the least aggressive possible measures to protect her community/instances).

But if he'd been fully open about it, we could all have made our own choices about using it. Free and open, which is the real essence of the fediverse. That's why he needed escorted off the premises in a direct but humane manner.

Anonymous is a different thing, both in scale and secrecy. It's not even a "thing", per se. It's collectivist direct action. I'm always torn in that regard, since they're isn't really a proper movement, a proper revolutionary goal. The methodology is fine as far as that goes, I just don't trust "it". When fighting established paradigms, secrecy is necessary if you're going to break laws. But it also comes with the price that ideologically aligned people and groups can't really rely on, or help.

I also tend to think Anonymous is half measures at best tbh. Stunts, not a real and coherent movement. Then again, the whole reality of my personal experiences with the general left in a fascist world has me rather disillusioned. There's literal concentration camps in my own country, and nobody is stopping it, and I mean in the way that should have happened when the U.S. did it before, and when the nazis did it last century.

But people at large then at least had the excuse of not realizing what was going on, so an actual uprising to free the people in them and destroy the existence of the death camps (and that's what they are). I couldn't even manage to get anyone to do anything locally. Nada, zilch, nil, not even organizing protest, much less anything that would save the lives of those prisoners. And I'm too fucking old, too fucking disabled, and too obligated to others to be a one man failure at it. It ain't a one man job.

Shit, I got started. Sorry, that's way off from the actual topic. Point was supposed to be that humans have a right to revolution, to pursue self rule. And in pursuit of that right, you use the tools that you have, including violence as needed. But dipshit patrick was one guy, not a structure, and there were better ways to achieve the goal of neutering him than nasty DMs, whingy posts about asking to be put on the list, and threats.